Orgonite

[bindeweede]

I am not clever enough to understand this..................

“Organic substances attract Bio energy and soak it up like a sponge, while metallic substances tend to repel it. Basically, orgonite pulls in the Bio energy, and while the energy is inside the device, the metal particles and organic resin both push and pull on it in all directions at the same time. This puts friction on the energy. The friction is great enough at many small points within the matrix to cause the energy to shift upwards in spectrum to Ether, so that it temporarily ceases to exist as a part of the electromagnetic spectrum. When the energy comes back out of the device, it collapses back into an organized, defined state and comes into existence as bio energy / magnetism.”

The quote comes from here......

http://tribes.tribe.net/orgonite

[Matt]

I am not stupid enough to understand this..................


Fixed it for you

[Tin Lizzie]

Funny - Orgonite does have very beneficial effects (well it works on plants, that's for certain).

[Cuddles]

Oh dear, orgone energy, deadly TVs, chemtrails, is there anything this guy doesn't believe?

[Melanie]

Good old Wiki - here's their take on All About Wilhelm Reich, purveyor of Orgone Accumulators - boxes wherein patients could sit to absorb the orgone energy accumulated within.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich

He died in prison.

PS I predict this thread will run and run...

[Tin Lizzie]

Oh dear, orgone energy, deadly TVs, chemtrails, is there anything this guy doesn't believe?

I can't recall ever declaring my belief in deadly TVs and chemtrails....not hallucinating now are we ;)

[Tin Lizzie]

Good old Wiki - here's their take on All About Wilhelm Reich, purveyor of Orgone Accumulators - boxes wherein patients could sit to absorb the orgone energy accumulated within.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich

He died in prison.

PS I predict this thread will run and run...

Thanks for that link. You're probably right about this thread running and running.

Oh, I also dabble in lunar gardening :smiley:

[bindeweede]

Fixed it for you
Nice one. My copy of Carl Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot" arrived this morning, together with the 30th anniversary edition of Dawkins' "The Selfish Gene" and his "Blind Watchmaker".

Might keep me out of mischief for a while:smiley:

(NB books bought through UK Skeptics link to Amazon.)

[Melanie]

(NB books bought through UK Skeptics link to Amazon.)


Thanks for the plug! (Bookstore Editor)

[Cuddles]

I can't recall ever declaring my belief in deadly TVs and chemtrails....not hallucinating now are we ;)

You do realise that not everything is about you? Don't you think it might just be possible that I was commenting on the actual subject of the thread? Not having delusions of grandeur now are we;)?

[Tin Lizzie]

You do realise that not everything is about you? Don't you think it might just be possible that I was commenting on the actual subject of the thread? Not having delusions of grandeur now are we;)?

Nope, just used to being sniped at and responding in kind ;)

[Admin]

http://skepdic.com/orgone.html


Just another one of those things people believe in that isn't true.

[bindeweede]

http://skepdic.com/orgone.html


Just another one of those things people believe in that isn't true.



There just seems to be such an enormous amount of it around. And so many people who seem to believe it. I think you can tell by the way so many scientific terms are thrown around in a way which makes you think they don't know what they are talking about.

[Tin Lizzie]

There just seems to be such an enormous amount of it around. And so many people who seem to believe it. I think you can tell by the way so many scientific terms are thrown around in a way which makes you think they don't know what they are talking about.

What really matters, surely, is that it can work?

[bindeweede]

What really matters, surely, is that it can work?

We'll only end up in the "science hasn't proved that it doesn't work, so surely it can" argument. Which has been explained to you many times elsewhere on this forum.

[Tin Lizzie]

We'll only end up in the "science hasn't proved that it doesn't work, so surely it can" argument. Which has been explained to you many times elsewhere on this forum.

No worries. My point is actually similar to that other one, in that it has been seen to work, so no need for science. I appreciate skeptics need proof, so i'll fish around for some after i've had my dinner :smiley:

[Mongrel]

No worries. My point is actually similar to that other one, in that it has been seen to work, so no need for science. I appreciate skeptics need proof, so i'll fish around for some after i've had my dinner :smiley:

That's what makes science great, your strawman aside. It isn't willing to just say "yeah, it works, let's grab a beer" (although I'm not sure about the beer thing ;)).

Science is the annoying kid going "Why?", "How?" all the time.

[Tin Lizzie]

Science is the annoying kid going "Why?", "How?" all the time.

Lordy! i'm going to remember that one for my first year classes! You've just made explaining the nature of science so much easier.

Cheers :smiley:

[Araneus]

It isn't willing to just say "yeah, it works, let's grab a beer" (although I'm not sure about the beer thing ;)).

Or in many cases: "yeah, I've been told it works by somebody else, let's grab a beer".

[Tin Lizzie]

Or in many cases: "yeah, I've been told it works by somebody else, let's grab a beer".

Unlike those of us who, upon seeing that something works, say "right, that works. Let's go for a beer", whilst the skeptic says "oooh no but we can't be 100% certain, let me just make sure", thus wasting valuable beer time and arriving at the pub just in time to buy the last round.

[Mongrel]

Because (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Galvani)we never (http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/snow.html)find (http://www.psnc.org.uk/index.php?type=more_news&id=2491)anything (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cern)new (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Curie)by (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin)asking (http://library.thinkquest.org/C005626/Quasars.htm)questions (http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/home.shtml) ::)

[bindeweede]

Unlike those of us who, upon seeing that something works, say "right, that works. Let's go for a beer", whilst the skeptic says "oooh no but we can't be 100% certain, let me just make sure", thus wasting valuable beer time and arriving at the pub just in time to buy the last round.

What evidence do you have that whatever you think works, actually works?

Let me predict your answer... "It works because I have seen it work".
Not evidence.

[Tin Lizzie]

What evidence do you have that whatever you think works, actually works?

Let me predict your answer... "It works because I have seen it work".
Not evidence.

i know that!

[Tin Lizzie]

Hang on...getting there slowly!

In fact, in the DOR generator, orgonite® is the major contributing factor to actually generate massive amounts of DOR. It acts just like the orgone accumulator with 20 layers that Reich used in his experimentation, the Oranur Experiment, with a lot more effect! Naturally, in the DOR generator, Orgonite® is more effective and much smaller quantities are needed to generate DOR.
With the pulsating orgone generator® close to it, the DOR that emanated from the DOR generator itself began to pulsate again: it lost its stale characteristics and therefore it was immediately transformed into healthy orgone energy. Consequently, the feeling of the atmosphere surrounding the device immediately changed from depressive-sickening to uplifting-energizing. Reich was obviously correct when describing DOR as an orgone energy that has become stale and rigid. His accumulators, of course, became part of the problem rather than part of the solution. It took the invention of the orgone generator® by Karl Hans Welz to have an effective mean against DOR. A blob of orgonite in a pendant or an other static orgonite device are nothing more than orgone accumulators, not generators as their marketers claim.
We experienced similar effects when orgone generators® of the JU 99 CE type were brought into places that had heavy DOR present such as in rooms with lots of fluorescent tubes and/or computer monitors. The atmosphere became agreeable almost immediately.

[bindeweede]

Hang on...getting there slowly!

In fact, in the DOR generator, orgonite® is the major contributing factor to actually generate massive amounts of DOR. It acts just like the orgone accumulator with 20 layers that Reich used in his experimentation, the Oranur Experiment, with a lot more effect! Naturally, in the DOR generator, Orgonite® is more effective and much smaller quantities are needed to generate DOR.
With the pulsating orgone generator® close to it, the DOR that emanated from the DOR generator itself began to pulsate again: it lost its stale characteristics and therefore it was immediately transformed into healthy orgone energy. Consequently, the feeling of the atmosphere surrounding the device immediately changed from depressive-sickening to uplifting-energizing. Reich was obviously correct when describing DOR as an orgone energy that has become stale and rigid. His accumulators, of course, became part of the problem rather than part of the solution. It took the invention of the orgone generator® by Karl Hans Welz to have an effective mean against DOR. A blob of orgonite in a pendant or an other static orgonite device are nothing more than orgone accumulators, not generators as their marketers claim.
We experienced similar effects when orgone generators® of the JU 99 CE type were brought into places that had heavy DOR present such as in rooms with lots of fluorescent tubes and/or computer monitors. The atmosphere became agreeable almost immediately.

TinL

Staggering.