Ectoplasm

[bindeweede]

We know that the Ectoplasm is drawn from the Medium to assist our Spirit Friends to make contact but what is the Chemical called that Spirit make to combine with the Ectoplasm??

From a "Mediums' Forum" - where else?

Suggestions on a postcard to.......................

[Julia]

The chemicals contained in cheesecloth, cotton wool, luminous paint, rubber and bits of offal. ::)

[Lord Muck oGentry]

Flannel?

[bindeweede]

Bolox?

[tolman]

I always assumed it was bullshit lightened by whitewash.

[bobdezon]

Actually, ectoplasm is allegedly comprised of base elements which are in gaseous form. They are exuded from the pancreas. Everyone has ectoplasm which we need to live, but mediums are born with an "excess of ectoplasm" and as such can exude it from body cavities to allow spirits to use as a material to mold into any form they like. They call it the "etheric mask".

Yes I read a LOT O0

[Julia]

Everyone has ectoplasm which we need to live, but mediums are born with an "excess of ectoplasm" and as such can exude it from body cavities to allow spirits to use as a material to mold into any form they like.

I feel so unclean after reading that...

[bindeweede]

A little more on ectoplasm.


.... in a physical seance the person clothes their etheric body in ectoplasm so that everyone can see and hear them without needing to use clairvoyance, clairaudience or any other 6th sense.... ectoplasm is sensitive to light so generally a coloured blue or red bulb is used and with a lower watt of around 40 or 20

Sorry, still have my doubts.

[Fiona]

I don't even understand that. Do you mean the medium produces base elements (?) from the pancreas, and then turns them into gas? If so how is this done? And the spirit takes this gas and forms it into a body? So that every body can see and hear them? Why don't they cut the middle man?

[bindeweede]

I don't even understand that. Do you mean the medium produces base elements (?) from the pancreas, and then turns them into gas? If so how is this done? And the spirit takes this gas and forms it into a body? So that every body can see and hear them? Why don't they cut the middle man?

Fiona,

I don't understand it either. What makes me suspicious is that in a seance, they use a 40 or even 20 watt bulb. Not trying to hide anything...?

[Fiona]

Och really, Bindeweede. They explained that! The gas made of base elements is sensitive to light. So it would turn black if you used a proper bulb. And then everybody would think it was an evil spirit. And we can't have that!!l

[bindeweede]

Och really, Bindeweede. They explained that! The gas made of base elements is sensitive to light. So it would turn black if you used a proper bulb. And then everybody would think it was an evil spirit. And we can't have that!!l

Fiona,

I'm a simple soul::). If ectoplasm is sensitive to light, then surely the colour of the light doesn't matter. The answer might be a black bulb that emits no light, but emits the "suggestion" of light.

I sometimes think I'm bonkers. But then I realise the truth.............

[Fiona]

A red light works in a dark-room. I wonder if they did this before photography?

Edit: did they have photography before they had light bulbs? Or did they have red gas light?

[bindeweede]

A red light works in a dark-room. I wonder if they did this before photography?

Edit: did they have photography before they had light bulbs? Or did they have red gas light?

But red bulbs only work in a dark-room if you are developing BLACK and white pics. Get my meaning????

[Fiona]

Ectoplasm is in technicolor? Or to put it another way, not really :)

[bindeweede]

Ectoplasm is in technicolor? Or to put it another way, not really :)

My guess is, your "not really" is about right.:smiley:

[Cuddles]

I thought they usually did it in the dark. No need to fuss around trying to find the right kind of light at all.

On a slightly different note:

clairvoyance, clairaudience or any other 6th sense
Surely only one of them can be a sixth sense? Or is that as high as mediums can count?

[Julia]

Want to see some black ectoplasm, o ye of little faith?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/AliceShortcake/ectoplasm17mx.jpg

Wasn't it lucky that someone had a cloth handy? I hate to think what a mess it would have made on the seance room carpet...;)

[bobdezon]

I don't even understand that. Do you mean the medium produces base elements (?) from the pancreas, and then turns them into gas? If so how is this done? And the spirit takes this gas and forms it into a body? So that every body can see and hear them? Why don't they cut the middle man?


I have recently become quite the expert on all things ectoplasmic. I have taken the time to read the accounts, view the images and listen to the spiritualist theories. I shall try to explain fully what ectoplasm is and how it is thought to be. I shall reiterate some points so those people unfamiliar with it get the scoop.

Ectoplasm is allegedly comprised of base elements which are in gaseous form. They are exuded from the pancreas. Everyone has ectoplasm which we need to live, but mediums are born with an "excess of ectoplasm" and as such can exude it from body cavities to allow spirits to use as a material to mold into any form they like. They call it the "etheric mask".

These base elements are supposedly in all of us, the medium however being born with an excess of ectoplasm can leak his into the atmosphere from an orifice. These base elements are not as yet ectoplasm as there is a process involved in which it will become ectoplasm. First these leaking base elements exuded from the pancreas are collected by "spirit chemists". These "spirit chemists" have access to all the knowledge of the universe (akashic records perhaps) and as such know how to construct anything they like. They take this base element extrusion and "mix it" until it forms ectoplasm.

The spirits who the circle have then tried to contact will then use this ectoplasm as a construction material to form any shape they need, from a finger, to a full apparition. Now we are told that it is very difficult to make contact with the spirits, and a lot of energy is required to make this possible. The spirit chemists dont just take ectoplasm from the medium, but also the sitters in the circle too to form a full apparition.

One has to ask if this spirit communication is so strenuous and takes a great deal of effort and energy to complete. Then why is it you can get the spirit chemists quite easilly? I mean think about it, if its hard to summon one spirit, why would it be easier to summon a team of spirit chemists working in conjunction breaking the physical laws of the known universe to help make enough ectoplasm to bring through one dead person?

Thats like building a nuclear power plant to provide power to the led in your remote control.

[filippo lippi]

Ah, it's so much clearer now you explain it

:cheesy:

[Julia]

Has anyone ever attempted to grab a handful of ectoplasm and analyze it, or are seance attendees told that this would injure the medium in some way (physically rather than reputation-wise)?

[Cuddles]

Has anyone ever attempted to grab a handful of ectoplasm and analyze it, or are seance attendees told that this would injure the medium in some way (physically rather than reputation-wise)?

Yes to both. In every case so far it's turned out to be cheesecloth, or something similar, and the medium suffered no harm whatsoever. Except possibly a loss of earnings.

[bobdezon]

Has anyone ever attempted to grab a handful of ectoplasm and analyze it, or are seance attendees told that this would injure the medium in some way (physically rather than reputation-wise)?

Well there is a belief based on anecdotal evidence that if you grab ectoplasm the ectoplasm being akin to a living creature will retract back into the mediums body at high speed causing severe injury and possible death. There are anecdotal accounts of why a seance room must be kept spotlessly clean because when a similar event happened to helen duncan the ectoplasm returned back into her body and cigarette stumps were found in her stomach (how they determined this without an exploratory operation is beyond me)

Several people have grabbed ectoplasm only to find it was cloth (like helen duncans manifestations which was a womans underslip with a papier mache mask draped over a coathanger). The obvious reason for this explanation is to prevent people grabbing the cloth and discovering there is no ectoplasm. Egg white has been used to provide samples of ectoplasm also.

There are a lot of accounts of injuries to the medium because of people grabbing ectoplasm. However they are just tales with zero evidence to support them. I was even told by a physical medium recently that they produced ectoplasm from the ear and it retracted back into their ear very fast like a snapping elastic band which felt painful. I suspect there is some psychological factors involved here.

I was recently informed a team of scientists have tested some medium in japan who produced phenomena and ectoplasm. The ectoplasm is apparantly undergoing tests but consists of skin cells, other human matter and an "unknown substance" I can find no details of this claim however except what is reported on spiritualist sites. Hardly an impartial source of information.

Spirits if you ask them nicely apparantly agree to provide samples, ectoplasm is still unknown to science so draw your own conclusions from that.

[DrS]

It seems to me that if I was in a room, however poorly lit, only yards away from material or cloth (however much it was supposed to be ectoplasm from a nostril or whatever ... to me that's snot ;D), then I would be able to identify it. Why is it apparently so difficult? Are special or optical illusions used as well as dimness (of light and audience, apparently)?

[bobdezon]

Red light. They use this on a very low setting just enough light so you can see the medium. After a while your eyes cannot focus correctly on the scene because you are deprived of the contrasting colours. Your eyes in this condition can cause the vision to swim and you are never quite sure what you are looking at. So a random bit of cheesecloth might look alive as it moves or it may blend its texture giving it an otherworldy appearance. When the medium has the cloth over his face people swear blind they can see different facial features forming on the "etheric mask". Its a bit daft.