facebook ???

[no_tomorow]

all those people giving up all that information, who's looking at you looking at someone else,, step out of line and your banned for messaging too many people,, except an application and it has access to everything in your profile,, am i the only one that thinks there is more to facebook than meets the eye ???:huh:

[Mulder]

I was about to install an app on facebook when it warned me it would allow my personal information to be shared with everyone! I declined.

[brianp]

all those people giving up all that information, who's looking at you looking at someone else,, step out of line and your banned for messaging too many people,, except an application and it has access to everything in your profile,, am i the only one that thinks there is more to facebook than meets the eye ???:huh:

What do you mean - "more than meets the eye"? As a regular Facebook user, I like to think that I'm fully aware of the potential dangers and I like to think that I've born those dangers in mind when deciding what information to add to my profile. Consequently I've only added information which I'm happy for any person or any application to "see".

The situation with applications is to change soon anyway. Because of a Canadian court decision, Facebook are to alter their set-up world-wide. In future all application developers will have to state which information an application needs when submitting it to Facebook - and the application will only get access to that subset of the data. In addition would-be users must be told exactly what information the application will be accessing before the they click the "accept" button.

So no, I don't agree that there's more than meets my eye - I can't speak for others, but I've no reason to believe that they are any different from myself.

[hisshadyness]

So no, I don't agree that there's more than meets my eye - I can't speak for others, but I've no reason to believe that they are any different from myself.
Yo, I see many complaints on social networking sites such as bebo and myspace etc, but 99.9% of these complaints seem to come from conspiracy enthusiasts. I have had one or two dodgy experiences that I cant explain, but most problems I have I put down to technical glithchs, bar one; and this was face book.
I was on a debate page for the Lisbon Treaty and was debating away when all of a suden I was givin' captcha phrases tfor every 4/5th comment I left, and then it was every second comment and finally every comment. The captcha phrases got harder and longer and demanded more punctuality, making it tiresome leaving comments; then I was banned.
I emailed a few people who were in the debate to inform th4em I was banned and people started complaining as I had said nothing close to justify being banned. A few friends then mailed me and told me I was winning the debate at the time of my untimely ban. I also mailed a few of the guys I was debating against and they too were confused as to why I would have been banned.
A stranger who then acted for a voice for me by forwording my comments to the debate then gave me his account name and password so I could continue debating as he was off to his bed. I was doing great untill I confessed it was me using someone elses account, not 5 minutes later I was banned on the strangers account.
I have no real answer to this, but I certainly think that someone, either the mods or facebook, or whoever, were cencoring that debate as no other member who was debating equally, if not more, than me experienced the same as I did. If anyone could explain this, without saying it was the Illuminati, I would be grateful.

[polomint38]

If anyone could explain this, without saying it was the Illuminati, I would be grateful.

You are a twat, I would ban you twatish twaddle if I were an administrator. >:-)O0>:D

[brianp]

I have no real answer to this, but I certainly think that someone, either the mods or facebook, or whoever, were cencoring that debate as no other member who was debating equally, if not more, than me experienced the same as I did. If anyone could explain this, without saying it was the Illuminati, I would be grateful.

Your IP address remains unchanged for long periods - permanently on some broadband accounts - and anything your computer is connected to would be aware of that IP address. That IP address would remain the same whatever login details you used, so if you have managed to get yourself blacklisted by some site for some reason, it would be quite feasible for them to know it was you, even if you used a friend's login. I'm not saying that Facebook monitor IP addresses or engage in censorship, but they could, and that could explain what you say you experienced.

[tolman]

...A few friends then mailed me and told me I was winning the debate at the time of my untimely ban. I also mailed a few of the guys I was debating against and they too were confused as to why I would have been banned...

...I was doing great untill I confessed it was me using someone elses account, not 5 minutes later I was banned on the strangers account...

So you're smart enough to 'win' a debate on an issue where there are multiple subjective points of view, yet you tell people that you're using someone else's account after being banned, and then seem at least slightly surprised that you got banned again as a result?

[tolman]

As for multiple captchas popping up in Facebook, my first thought would be some kind of computer infection using you to do captchas for free, rather than the Dark Hand of the Illuminati.

But that's just me being a cynical old skeptic, rather than a CT.

[asthmatic camel]

Your IP address remains unchanged for long periods - permanently on some broadband accounts - and anything your computer is connected to would be aware of that IP address. That IP address would remain the same whatever login details you used, so if you have managed to get yourself blacklisted by some site for some reason, it would be quite feasible for them to know it was you, even if you used a friend's login. I'm not saying that Facebook monitor IP addresses or engage in censorship, but they could, and that could explain what you say you experienced.

Unless you use a proxy, connected to another proxy, connected to who knows what pc without a firewall at the end of the earth.

[Croydon Bob]

I think that polowhatever has already nailed it. O0

[hisshadyness]

Just as I thought, you are a bunch of loosers. I'm a an engineer, I know pcs and the net. I used two seperate networks on the debate page, one supplied by Eircom and the other Smart Telecom. I run my own business and have many, many clients who would be laughing at me being called a twat. Name calling seems to be what you guys are good at though. Even explaining IP to me;D you guys really need to get a life instead of judging everyone elses. You seem to think you are superior in this little cycber world you live in.
As for the comment about me using someone elses account, I was unfairly banned and was justified in doing so. You peope,tut, tut.

[Croydon Bob]

Just as I thought, you are a bunch of loosers.

;D Loosers? Dumb troll.


I was unfairly banned and was justified in doing so. You peope,tut, tut.

You're going to be quite fairly banned from this forum, cretin. ;D

[hisshadyness]

;D Loosers? Dumb troll.



You're going to be quite fairly banned from this forum, cretin. ;D

Again, a typo, you jump on a typo, please please ban me, I have just looked for the delete account in the settings. You can have your cycber world, it obviously makes up for what you lack in the real world. LOOSERS or losers, they both equate to the same.

[hisshadyness]

PS, banned for for what? You guys are the ones throwing insults around at everyone??

[tolman]

Just as I thought, you are a bunch of loosers. I'm a an engineer, I know pcs and the net. I used two seperate networks on the debate page, one supplied by Eircom and the other Smart Telecom. I run my own business and have many, many clients who would be laughing at me being called a twat. Name calling seems to be what you guys are good at though. Even explaining IP to me;D you guys really need to get a life instead of judging everyone elses. You seem to think you are superior in this little cycber world you live in.
As for the comment about me using someone elses account, I was unfairly banned and was justified in doing so. You peope,tut, tut.
So you're a brilliant engineer, you went to the trouble of using multiple networks to connect through, and you're miffed and/or surprised that you were banned again after admitting (in a debate you'd already been banned from) that you were back using someone else's account?

It's got nothing at all to do with whether you were (or think you were) unfairly banned in the first place.
A repeat ban after coming back and admitting you were back is so deeply predictable that even mentioning it in the context of some Conspiracy seems strange and pointless. At best, it just makes people wonder 'Why on earth admit it, unless he just wanted to be banned again?"

You might well feel morally justified in using another account to carry on 'winning' a debate and giving everyone the benefit of your great wisdom, but it's highly likely that that falls foul of the appropriate Ts&Cs.

[hisshadyness]

So you're a brilliant engineer,

You might well feel morally justified in using another account to carry on 'winning' a debate and giving everyone the benefit of your great wisdom, but it's highly likely that that falls foul of the appropriate Ts&Cs.
I didnt say brilliant, and I adnitted I was using another account because one of the chaps i was debating against said in the debate that he missed Kevin in the debate as he wasnt a fool. I felt bad for hiding under another name and confessed, hang me and drag me through the streets naked, I had moral objection with regards to decieiving people.

[Graham Lappin]

Just as I thought, you are a bunch of loosers. I'm a an engineer.....

And so the two things are innately not synonymous then?

You just have to get the fact that if what you say doesn't stack up you will be challenged. If you then keep restating it, you will get ridiculed. It's the way this site works and with the greatest of respect, if you don't like the heat you have to get out of the kitchen.

[hisshadyness]

You just have to get the fact that if what you say doesn't stack up you will be challenged. If you then keep restating it, you will get ridiculed. It's the way this site works and with the greatest of respect, if you don't like the heat you have to get out of the kitchen.

Being wrong I can handle, being ridiculed for it, no. And why am I being threatened with being banned when insults are flying my way from certain members. You should have a disclaimer warning people on how they will be treated on this site, and give them forewarning they will be called names and ridiculed for anything deemed "stupid"by the main members. I can understand how it is for you guys having to listen to the same ole, same ole all the time, but some of you have your head firmly up your own...

[Admin]

OK, hisshadyness is banned.

I can't see the point of enduring this type of disruptive poster.

[Graham Lappin]

Being wrong I can handle, being ridiculed for it, no. And why am I being threatened with being banned when insults are flying my way from certain members. You should have a disclaimer warning people on how they will be treated on this site, and give them forewarning they will be called names and ridiculed for anything deemed "stupid"by the main members. I can understand how it is for you guys having to listen to the same ole, same ole all the time, but some of you have your head firmly up your own...

I have to say I don't get it. No one makes anyone come on this site and if you don't like it, then don't come here. I don't mean to sound harsh but this is a forum for UK Skeptics (and guests from overseas like me) and so you will get hammered if you come out with the sort of stuff you have come out with.

I went onto a skeptics site in the US once and got hammered for something I thought was quite trivial. I didn't stay and get all upset and angry I went elsewhere and found a home here. I can assure you, even though I have been posting here for quite some time, I would also get hammered if I did what you have done. Sorry to say it, but that's the way it is.

Let me demonstrate.

I completely agree with you that we all have faith and that is is really faith that drives us. Evidence is not something we can consider real and it is different from one person to another. (And I know this is not your beef but just as part of the experiment) Pharmaceutical companies and scientists are conspiring to hide the truth that they are killing millions purely for profit.

Now I will wait for a hammering.

Edit: John's just put my experiment into the laboratory bin :-(

[tolman]

I didnt say brilliant, and I adnitted I was using another account because one of the chaps i was debating against said in the debate that he missed Kevin in the debate as he wasnt a fool. I felt bad for hiding under another name and confessed, hang me and drag me through the streets naked, I had moral objection with regards to decieiving people.
Which again entirely misses the point.

Whether you or anyone else might think you were morally perfectly justified in using the second account, or right to then admit that that's what you were doing really doesn't matter.

Your second banning from the Facebook debate was deeply predictable, almost to the point of inevitability, based on the fact of the first banning and the subsequent choices you made. Therefore fact that it actually happened therefore has effectively zero significance.

If I was barred from a pub, and successfully reentered in disguise and then said "I'm the guy that was just barred!", then whether or not the original ban was wrong, being thrown out again would be a highly likely result, and not one I could meaningfully be surprised by or usefully complain about, or draw any deep conclusions from.

[Harryprice]

Another fun thread on UKS! You don't log on for a few hours and miss all the fun ...

[skbuncks]

OK, I'll oblige.


snip..
I completely agree with you that we all have faith and that is is really faith that drives us. Evidence is not something we can consider real and it is different from one person to another. (And I know this is not your beef but just as part of the experiment) Pharmaceutical companies and scientists are conspiring to hide the truth that they are killing millions purely for profit.

Now I will wait for a hammering.

Edit: John's just put my experiment into the laboratory bin :-(

Idiot.

skb O0

[Graham Lappin]

OK, I'll oblige.



Idiot.

skb O0

See proof >:D