The Moon Matrix story

[tiswas]

Accd to David Icke and many, many others the Moon itself is not a heavenly body but a UFO vechile which houses hostile beings who control the masses.
Has anyone heard of this thoughtform.

[DrS]

Accd to David Icke and many, many others the Moon itself is not a heavenly body but a UFO vechile which houses hostile beings who control the masses.
Has anyone heard of this thoughtform.
I've not heard of this idiocy, never mind call it a "thought".

What's a "thoughtform"?

[Tony Williams]

Accd to David Icke and many, many others the Moon itself is not a heavenly body but a UFO vechile which houses hostile beings who control the masses.
Has anyone heard of this thoughtform.
New one on me.

It does make me marvel over the flexibility of the human mind, to be able to keep functioning in society while believing something so clearly insane.

[skbuncks]

I, for one, would welcome any alien overlords with the patience of waiting 4.5 billion years (the age of the moon) for the dubious please of controlling mankind.

skb

[Croydon Bob]

It's at least 40 years old as an idea. I have a 1970s book called "Our Mysterious Space Ship Moon", which, I'm afraid, I bought when it first came out. I think that Brinsley le pour Trench had already published a similar book in the 60s or early 70s.

To summarise the original theory: Moon is lighter than Earth - Hollow spaceship? Doesn't look like Earth - from somewhere else? Grey colour - like a battleship or TV SF spaceship! Some photos of the Moon have straight lines on them - not a camera effect but proof that it is artificial! Some Apollo mission conversations were confusing to a layman - proof of a conspiracy!

[smudge]

It's at least 40 years old as an idea. I have a 1970s book called "Our Mysterious Space Ship Moon", which, I'm afraid, I bought when it first came out.

I have an album by David Bowie ( Hunky Dory, 1971 ) I thought it was his idea! Side one track four....


To summarise the original theory:


"It's the freakiest show..."!

I know that was Mars, same idea though....
;)

[Tony Williams]

To summarise the original theory: Moon is lighter than Earth - Hollow spaceship? Doesn't look like Earth - from somewhere else? Grey colour - like a battleship or TV SF spaceship! Some photos of the Moon have straight lines on them - not a camera effect but proof that it is artificial! Some Apollo mission conversations were confusing to a layman - proof of a conspiracy!

Gosh - suddenly my eyes have been opened - it's so obvious once it's described so clearly and logically!
:wnw:

[tiswas]

A thoughtform is a point of mental view folks, but go to the Icke website and you can view that in his latest book (which I admit I too would buy:smiley:), is the main discovery that the Moon itself is a UFO type of planetoid which houses beings which are mentally mind controlling the Earth masses.
One respected poster in the Icke forum has actually gone so far and stated that NASA should go to the moon and drill into the surface, to have it out with the HOSTILE BEINGS. I am learning more and more about this, and is it fact that is never made public for a reason.
Oh I did have an outburst a few years back, but I am more secure in myself now and I realise that Icke is the victim of cyberbullying mostly. I ain't wa atnting to be in that party at all, but the Moon story is well discussed by alot in the conspricarcy circuits now.

[tiswas]

A thoughtform is a view of mental mind, that is all.
Anyway go to the website of David Icke and see the advertisement for the latest book on this.
The book is called 'Human Race get off your Knees' and cos I like a great read, I too would be buying this book.:smiley:
This thoughtform is controversial, and actually it is believed in too.

[DrS]

A thoughtform is a view of mental mind
What does this actually mean?

[tiswas]

A view that is what. I answered that in the post.

[chaggle]

:knitter:

[Croydon Bob]

I don't understand how the aliens could make a giant spaceship out of cheese. It just wouldn't work would it?

[brianp]

A thoughtform is a view of mental mind,

"Mental" is an adjective meaning "involving the mind". So the phrase"mental mind" is as stupid as "canine dog" or "juvenile child".

"Thoughtform" is an invented word much loved by woos - it seems to be a sort of manifestation of a thought which can be seen or experienced by others.

http://www.spiritwritings.com/fodort.html#THOUGHTFORMS

Meaningless gobbledygook, of course - like everything else Icke gives credence to.

[tolman]

... in his latest book is the main discovery that the Moon itself is a UFO type of planetoid which houses beings which are mentally mind controlling the Earth masses.
'Discovery' implies finding out something which is real, not making up something which isn't.


One respected poster in the Icke forum has actually gone so far and stated that NASA should go to the moon and drill into the surface, to have it out with the HOSTILE BEINGS.
Which just goes to show what kind of people must inhabit the forum if someone like that ends up as one of the more respected posters.


I am more secure in myself now and I realise that Icke is the victim of cyberbullying mostly.
Bullying?
He's talking nonsense, just like he did before he had a web presence, and is thought of as ridiculous by most people online, just as he was thought ridiculous by most of the audience when he was talking nonsense on TV.

Possibly it is slightly unfair to mock the afflicted, but balanced against that is the influence that one nut like Icke could have on many people who are already teetering on the edge of sanity. I'm not sure that selling vulnerable people outlandish paranoid fantasies helps anyone apart from the person who is selling the fantasies.

[skbuncks]

A thoughtform is a point of mental view folks, but go to the Icke website and you can view that in his latest book (which I admit I too would buy:smiley:), is the main discovery that the Moon itself is a UFO type of planetoid which houses beings which are mentally mind controlling the Earth masses.
One respected poster in the Icke forum has actually gone so far and stated that NASA should go to the moon and drill into the surface, to have it out with the HOSTILE BEINGS. I am learning more and more about this, and is it fact that is never made public for a reason.
Oh I did have an outburst a few years back, but I am more secure in myself now and I realise that Icke is the victim of cyberbullying mostly. I ain't wa atnting to be in that party at all, but the Moon story is well discussed by alot in the conspricarcy circuits now.

Why do you believe this? What proof for this spaceship and these hostile aleins has been presented.

I eagerly await conversion.

skb

[tiswas]

I am going to write about it soon but go into the Man's forum please.:smiley:
You might learn a lot more about this new theory of Icke's.

[Croydon Bob]

I am going to write about it soon but go into the Man's forum please.:smiley:
You might learn a lot more about this new theory of Icke's.

We've already established in this two page thread that it is not "a new theory" but is in fact at least 40 years old. Do you have a memory problem?

And anyway it is thoroughly discredited. It's even more stupid now than it was in the 70s. More countries have been to the moon, more evidence and understanding of the moon's nature and history have been obtained.

[skbuncks]

I am going to write about it soon but go into the Man's forum please.:smiley:
You might learn a lot more about this new theory of Icke's.

What is the mass of the hollowed out moon?

To keep it simple is it:
1) Less than...
2) The same...
3) More than...

...what we would expect for a non-hollowed out moon (7.4 x 1022Kg)

skb

[skbuncks]

Actually, upon reflection I think Icke may be right. The problem is is that he has foreseen the future and is some thousands, many many thousands of years, ahead with his insights.

You see, R. Daneel Olivaw will paternalistically manipulate humanity from, amongst other places, his base in a hollowed out Earth. Unfortunately for Icke at this point in psuedoposthistory the Earth will have been long uninhabited with humanity spread across the Galaxy and his theories long forgotten.

skb

[Blank]

That's no moon...

What makes me sad is that I know some Icke supporters that would use this loony theory of his as 'proof' that someone is trying to discredit him.

[Croydon Bob]

That's no moon...

;D

Perhaps if someone can turn off the tractor beam we'll be able to escape from the Grand Moff?

Icke based much of his reptiloid nonsense on "V" so this isn't the first time his "new idea" has previously featured in SF.

[ZERO]

Icke based much of his reptiloid nonsense on "V" so this isn't the first time his "new idea" has previously featured in SF.

But of course...;D. Ahhh, 80's television.

[WWu777]

It's at least 40 years old as an idea. I have a 1970s book called "Our Mysterious Space Ship Moon", which, I'm afraid, I bought when it first came out. I think that Brinsley le pour Trench had already published a similar book in the 60s or early 70s.

To summarise the original theory: Moon is lighter than Earth - Hollow spaceship? Doesn't look like Earth - from somewhere else? Grey colour - like a battleship or TV SF spaceship! Some photos of the Moon have straight lines on them - not a camera effect but proof that it is artificial! Some Apollo mission conversations were confusing to a layman - proof of a conspiracy!

Here is a better summary from Amazon.com's entry for the book "Who Built the Moon?"

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Built-Moon-Christopher-Knight/dp/1842931636/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1273681740&sr=8-1

"Coincidence that the moon's diameter is exactly 400 times smaller than that of the Sun? Coincidence that the one second arc of the Moon's rotation is exactly 100 Megalithic Yards? Coincidence that the Moon exactly blocks the Sun's disk during a solar eclipse so that the Sun's corona can be studied? Without which much of Einstein's work would not have been confirmed. By the way the Moon is also 1/400 of the distance from the Sun which Isaac Asimov described as being 'the most unlikey of coincidences'. That the Moon is almost exactly 1/4 the size in diameter of the earth (which makes it the largest moon for a planet this size) and without its precise posisition at present, life as we know it would not have happened? Too many coincidences to accept as pure chance for me. And the fact that so many of the relationships can be expressed in whole rounded integers (within 99 % accuracy)in the metric system which we have blindly accepted as of modern origin which it apparently is not. All in all, an exciting and easy read even for this non mathmatician. The authors conclude that the moon is not a coincidence of blind nature and offer several (3) answers, which they wisely do not force upon us. The most important thing is that they do force us to think a bit more about what we have accepted blindly for centuries just because it seemed to fit the science of the times. Just as the 'flat earth' did before it."

Note: I don't like using the quotation brackets here, because the quotation text boxes are small and hard to read.

[WWu777]

Icke recently talked about his new book and theory in this incredible 3 hour interview. It's totally mind blowing and jaw dropping. Once you get through the first clip, you won't want to stop until you've seen all 18 parts! And it contains incredible surreal and vivid graphic artwork displayed throughout the whole interview too. Definitely a MUST SEE. Whether you think Icke is brilliant or a nutcase, he does make A LOT OF SENSE and gives you a lot to think about and takes your mind way up into other dimensions. Absolutely incredible. I can't stress that enough.

You should probably only listen to this interview if you're willing to expand your consciousness though.

Anyhow, here is part 1 of 18:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPSeH_Iy3As