Reply With QuoteJocky has already answered this question in another thread for you.
The Jersey girls are four ladies whose family, whose husbands, died in the collapse of the twin towers, and they were instrumental in pushing for there to be a 911 Commission in the first place, at the government level, lobbying members of congress and so forth to get the whole thing going, and I'd like to talk about this because it is clear evidence of a conspiracy regarding 911, and all I ask is for you to watch this video and make up your own mind.
This is a video from the families who fought to create the 9/11 Commission - and succeeded!
Who was responsible for 9/11?
9/11: Press for Truth
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ress+for+truth
Last edited by Zaira; 20th July 2007 at 10:39 AM.
Jocky has already answered this question in another thread for you.
Zaira,
You've already been directed to the JREF Conspiracy Theories Forum:
http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=64
Did you bother looking?
Another interesting link:
http://www.counterpunch.org/ninelevenconsp11252006.html
Jocky's link is best - direct to the point!
The one that seemed clearest and easiest to use is this.
Quote from this site.... "But are they(conspiracies) really true?"
We don’t know, but one good way to start is by checking a few claims for yourself. We tried that with a number of 9/11 sites, with surprising results. Many of the “facts” we read were distorted, or simply wrong. Quotes were routinely taken out of context. Relevant information was often ignored. And much of this could be discovered with a minimum of online research.
Whatever you believe about 9/11, the spreading of false claims helps no-one, and we’d like to play a small part in revealing some of them. We’re not about debunking entire conspiracies, then, but will use this site to zoom in on what we think are the more dubious stories, revealing the misquotes, the distortions, the inaccuracies that are so common online."
I enjoyed the video - better than most - but you need to read counter arguments - the ones that precisely pertain to points brought up in the video are here
and here
Julia - did you watch the video?
At 1 hour 24 minutes long I doubt anyone is going to watch it.
We've all heard the conspiracy theories but they aren't very convincing.
I think that dragging this on and on is actually counter productive for the families involved. If they keep looking for daft answers like the Bush administration were behind it, or the Illuminati, then they're just perpetuating their grief.
Yes some things may have been hushed up, but I would think that that's more to do with covering up the US authorities' incompetence in preventing such an attack than to keep secret some sinister plot by "them" hidden.
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Well I watched it - and maybe if you bothered to do so to, you would find it didn't HAVE any of the stuff you have just slammed it with.....how can you make a judgment if you don't look at the item!!!! ? You have made up your mind already.......Originally Posted by John Jackson
I cut my skeptical teeth arguing with Paranoid Conspiracy Theorists (!)Well I watched it - and maybe if you bothered to do so to, you would find it didn't HAVE any of the stuff you have just slammed it with.....how can you make a judgment if you don't look at the item!!!! ? You have made up your mind already.......
No, I didn't watch the video but I've heard all the stupid arguments many times over so I'm not pre-judging.
As you've watched it, could you give us a précis of the points?
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It is the story of how the families who lost relatives in 9/11 lobbied to have a governmental hearing, and eventually did. There are clips from the hearing.... right at the end there was speculation about these points and these points...otherwise not very eventful.I cut my skeptical teeth arguing with Paranoid Conspiracy Theorists (!)
No, I didn't watch the video but I've heard all the stupid arguments many times over so I'm not pre-judging.
As you've watched it, could you give us a précis of the points?
I think it is really important to read or view a video before commenting - come on, folks, play fair.
I just don't have enough interest in the topic to sit through an hour and a half of it.
OK, perhaps I shouldn't comment on this particular video, but don't assume that I know nothing of the subject.
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Now that is probably true - yes - no interest and I'm sure less time to waste than I have.
I would never dream of saying you knew nothing on the subject.....
Yes, because this particular mount of dirt might have a valuable diamond hidden inside it, even though mounds of dirt don't generally have valuable diamonds inside them and the few that have been examined have turned out to contain nothing but dirt.
Well, I didn’t find a diamond I must say – just a video which made be feel thankful that I have never lost a child or a partner, and to wonder where people get the strength in their grief to be so determined at getting some kind of acknowledgment.
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