Reply With QuoteI see, perhaps you should visit this chiropractor and ask him about a flu jab, if he repeats it and you record that then you can forward that to the relevant authority. You may infact even save a life because of your actions.
Went round to the folks on Saturday and my mum's cousin was there and we got round to flu jabs. My dad has one, I get offered one because of asthma, but never take it up as I think it's a waste of resources. The mum's cousin doesn't have one because her chiropractor told her that the flu jab can cause senility!
When she said this, the glw squeezed my leg as a "don't start an argument" signal to me, but I really regret not saying anything.
"I'm putting on me top hat,
Lah-di-dah me new shoes,
Standing on me tail"
I see, perhaps you should visit this chiropractor and ask him about a flu jab, if he repeats it and you record that then you can forward that to the relevant authority. You may infact even save a life because of your actions.
De omnibus dubitandum
This is an example of how quacks can cause indirect harm to people.
Flu is a known killer, which is why the vaccinations are given, and quacks like chiropractors with their dangerous anti-vaccine stance could actually contribute to people's premature death by advising them against vaccination.
That's how dangerous these people really are.
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If the vaccination (which is just a dead, altered or protein version of the virus) causes senility, then the actual virus must cause it too, thus getting flu must be worse for causing senility than the vaccine, as it is "live" and causes more harm.
The speed of light, expressed in FFF Units, is 1.8 mega-furlongs per micro-fortnight, or approximately 1.8 terafurlongs per fortnight.
Gravity makes the heart grow heavier.
Any use of this product, in any manner whatsoever, will increase the amount of disorder in the universe. Although no liability is implied herein, the consumer is warned that this process will lead to the heat death of the universe.
I have to kind of agree with this. In most cases (including the flue), viral defences are just empty capsids, building up the immune defence. - However, there will still be a difference in the way the capasid is delivered, making this argument not 100% full proof.Originally Posted by vbloke
One possible scenario, is that it is the way in which his drug is administered, causes the senility
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Most of the Anti-vaxxers attribute the bad things to the excipients (filler) in the jab. You can check what's in the current crop here, just click on the SPC lines and check section 6.1
Defendants might as well have said: Beneficent creatures from the 17th dimension use this bracelet as a beacon to locate people who need pain relief and whisk them off to their home world every night to provide help in ways unknown to our science.
Judge Frank Easterbrook commenting on the Q-Ray bracelet
"For Gods sake you're an American! Stop thinking of the consequences and blow something up" - Stan Smith, American Dad!
But would such a concern be taken seriously by the relevant authority?
This is the highly dubious ‘vaccination’ website http://www.vaccination.co.uk/ of a UK chiropractor who, in May of this year, was elected to serve on the committees of the General Chiropractic Council (GCC) – the UK chiropractic regulatory body which supposedly ensures that chiropractic standards are upheld in order to protect patients and the public.
The chiropractor in question currently serves on the GCC’s Health Committee which considers complaints against chiropractors relating to their mental or physical health. See here:
http://www.gcc-uk.org/page.cfm?page_id=9#3
As a serving member of the GCC, under ‘non-pecuniary interests declared’ he has put “campaign of awareness of adverse events from vaccinations”, and under ‘direct pecuniary interests declared’ he has put “European distributor for Koren publication patient education materials”. A link to this information could previously be found here
http://test.gcc-uk.org/files/link_file/Direct%20Indirect%20and%20non%20pecuniary%20intere sts%20July%2007.pdf
but it now appears to have been removed. Fortunately I have it on hard copy.
For those not familiar with Tedd Koren, DC, he is a notorious anti-vaccination chiropractic lecturer, researcher and publisher who lives in Pennsylvania, USA. Here is a sample of his website material:
http://www.korenpublications.com/kp/category/vaccine-information
In view of the GCC's apparent willingness to turn a blind eye to having such a blatant anti-vaxer serve on its committees, all I can say is good luck with any complaint that might be lodged concerning ‘flu vaccinations.
And where were you pot noodle when pharmaceutical companies were filling their vaccines with mercury and poisoning babies. One stupid comment from a chiropractor is worse in your books apparently. Might even save a life, what absolute bullocks, as if you even care.
pharmaceutical companies were filling their vaccines with mercury and poisoning babies.
Well, this is totally horrendous, absolutely vile and atrocious. Do, please provide us with the links to these diabolical experiments.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear
bright, until you hear them speak.
what absolute bullocks, as if you even care.
Well......
Sorry, I have no idea where those little thingies came from.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear
bright, until you hear them speak.
http://www.mmrfacts.com/article.php?id=420
Google "mercury and vaccines" and you will find plenty of links.
A study conducted by Dr. Geier, which was published in the peer-reviewed Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, concludes that there has been a documented increase in neurodevelopmental disorders following the use of vaccines containing thimerosal. According to Dr. Geier, "The amount of mercury in thimerosal in childhood vaccines far exceeds federal safety guidelines.” Continued Dr. Geier, "A causal relationship between childhood vaccines containing thimerosal and neurodevelopmental disorders and heart disease appears to be confirmed."
Some may say that the amount of mercury in flu vaccines is safe. Each flu vaccine contains 25 micrograms of mercury. The FDA and the EPA say the "safe" level of mercury is only 0.1 micrograms per kilogram of body weight per day. Since each kilogram is equal to 2.2046 pounds, a person would have to weigh 555.15 pounds in order for the amount of mercury in the vaccine to be at a "safe" level according to EPA/ FDA guidelines.
Thiomersal has been used in multi-dose vaccines since 1931. It was removed from vaccines in the US in 1999, since when, autism rates have remained constant.
http://www.mhra.gov.uk/home/idcplg?I...AGE&nodeId=236
The speed of light, expressed in FFF Units, is 1.8 mega-furlongs per micro-fortnight, or approximately 1.8 terafurlongs per fortnight.
Gravity makes the heart grow heavier.
Any use of this product, in any manner whatsoever, will increase the amount of disorder in the universe. Although no liability is implied herein, the consumer is warned that this process will lead to the heat death of the universe.
The Committee on Safety of Medicines (CSM) has examined the link between thiomersal and neurotoxicity. The CSM advised that there is no evidence of harm caused by doses of thiomersal in vaccines, except for hypersensitivity reactions (such as allergic skin reactions). There is no evidence of a link between hypersensitivity reactions and the development of autism.
Two new studies have been completed (one funded by DoH, and the other by WHO) in the UK. They looked at a possible link between mercury in vaccines and neurodevelopmental disorders in children. Neither of the studies, involving over a hundred thousand children, finds a link between thiomersal exposure and neurodevelopment disorders, including autism.
A further study, published recently in the medical journal 'The Lancet', found that ethylmercury is very rapidly eliminated from babies' bodies and did not accumulate. The paper found that the level of mercury in blood was no higher in children after vaccination than at birth. Claims of neurological damage have been based on toxicity from methyl mercury, not present in thiomersal.
From http://www.mmrfacts.com/article.php?id=420
You actually believe that? Carefull next time you eat tuna then. A can of tuna contains more mercury than the thimerosal that used to be used as a preservative in some vacines. The low mercury levels were cleared as safe. After it was hypothesised that the mercury was linked with a jump in autism the mercury was removed. Autism levels remained the same. The jump in autism has been atributed instead to a widening of the diagnostic criteria. Just as if influenza levels would jump if every cold, sore throat or runny nose were called flu. By studying autism it appears that the condition is genetic rather then being caused by neurological damage either by mercury or any other agent.
However there are anti vaxers and vested interests profitting from them who persist in believing otherwise. Perhaps the idea of mandatory vacinations scares them, they don't like being told what to do. Perhaps the pharmaceutical companies represent multinational capitalism. However not for the reasons that vacinnes actually do any harm, that's only a pretense. Otherwise the evidence would convince them otherwise.
In the UK thimerosal was never used and yet anti vaxers paid a researcher, Dr Andrew Wakefield to produce controversial findings linking the MMR vaxine with autism. Whilst the evidence in his paper was weak being a study of only 12 children, it merited investigation. However the findings were and rapidly drowned out by more reliable studies.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=15022645
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=15022648
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=15022649
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=15022650
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=15022651
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=15016482
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=15016483
It's unfortunate that such retractions don't make the newspapers. Neither does the GMC inquriy into Dr Andrew Wakefileds ethical abuses. To the majority of people in the country the last thing they read in the news about MMR was that it had been called into question. Cionsequently uptake of the vaccine has dipped to worrying levels. Levels low enought to allow small scale epidemics resulting in cases of dangerous childhood diseases including at least one death.
By promoting such leathal and unsubstantiated advice you risk being partially responsible for the next outbreak of suffering, brain damage and death.
Check the facts.
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