Reply With QuoteThis was done by an ex-policeman in an unofficial way.Originally Posted by Sarah
I was looking at Brian Ladd's page and apparently he was off to Portugal to go and "crack the Madeleine McCann case". People gave him money for his trip and then apparently he got an e-mail from the police or authorities or someone official. In this e-mail (shown on his page) it says that if he goes to Portugal he will be arrested, so now he's not going.
My question is: how many policemen sending official e-mails have a yahoo! address????
This was done by an ex-policeman in an unofficial way.
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Although didn't this ex-policemen say that he knew all about Brian and had checked him out? Where would he get this information from?
The letter states that he will be arrested if he flies through the UK or indeed if he lands in Portugal - may I just ask, if the Police are wasting time worrying about arresting someone who wants to help the case...... why the hell aren't they concentrating on the missing child which this is actually all about?
Brian Ladd is a fake psychic who's conning the gullible but the police in the UK or Portugal will not be interested in that (although the police in the USA should be IMO).
Brian has stated that he intended to go to Portugal, interfere in an ongoing investigation (which is illegal), and even break into Robert Murat's villa (again completely illegal) so I would suggest this is why the UK and Portuguese police are interested in stopping him.
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But do you not think that he saying this to people so that someone else will do it before him. If the Police in Portugal were to know of Brains plans, wouldnt they want to check any suspects house that Brian talks about (on the off chance that SOMETHING could be found) so when he was to arrive and try to do the same then it would be completely pointless...?
Its just thinks like - there was a photo of Robert Murat standing on a pavement (after being named an arguido) laughing and joking with all of the Policemen - not a care in the world it seems. If he was under formal investigation by all of those people I can assure you that he wouldnt be doing that.
I think Brian has got himself in so so deep now and there is no way that he is going to be able to get out of it unless he does actually go to Portugal and do what he has says. People will definitely stop listening to him otherwise though wont they.
All of his dreams etc have been posted to Scotland Yard and Interpol by followers of his, so surely they are already aware of him?
yes I do think he's inciting criminal behaviour. However I was told it was just my imagination. I suppose whoever told me that must be feeling a bit silly now.
http://www.skeptics.org.uk/forum/sho...&postcount=258
Oh, it was you. Now I'm confused.
Do you or do you not think that Brian has encouraged other's to break into Murat's house?
Of course if all this was simply to cause the police to search Murat's house then he's kind of missed the boat. Murat's house has been foresnsicly searched by police and sniffer dogs a number of times.
Last edited by Matt; 30th October 2007 at 12:36 PM. Reason: Add link to Bubbles apparently contradictory post
Do you have any concrete evidence as to when exactly that photo was taken? Can you prove it wasn't taken before he was named an arguido - for example while he was helping with the search and acting as a translator?
Even if it was taken before he wa smade a suspect - he is still seen smiling and right in amongst the action and looking very comfortable indeed, showing that he has a relationship with the portuguese police - and that it is an informal one. He has been made a suspect for a reason.
And the 2nd time it was searched was then it was alleged that Madeline DNA was in the house - proving that she had been there at some point. If they find that on the 2nd search - what could they find on the 3rd/4th?
But that isn't what you said. You said the photo was taken when he was a aguido. Bubblesxx, you keep stating things that are either untrue or you can't back up. Or that mean nothing. Perhaps you could do a little research before posting? Somethingto back up your 'facts'?
What if I allege that Maddy's DNA was found in your house what does that prove?
Allegations prove nothing. All we know for certain is that police ahve searched Murat's house, Madeline is still missing, Murat has not been charged.
YET. But if you were to say that there were traces of her at my house implying that I had something to do with the disappearance, and made it public so that everyone everywhere could it read about it, haven't you got to have some grounds for saying that? Otherwise, I could sue for deformation of character/slander etc couldn't I? I'm not being funny - I am genuinely asking you.
Surely the Police/media newpapers are aware of this? And the paper 24 horas, are already facing some sort of court thing regarding the report that they ran to say that Gerry McCann wasn't Madelines biological father.
One day your life will flash before your eyes..... make sure it is worth watching...
In theory, yes you could sue for libel. I can't comment on the Portuguese legal system, but in the UK it is incredibly expensive to sue for libel. It also takes months, if not years especially if it goes to appeal. And there is no guarantee that you would be awarded costs even if you won.
Cheaper, but also slow, would be to complain to the Press Complaints Council, who can order the paper to print a retraction. However, retractions are usually in the form of an inch of column tucked away on page 15, months after the massive front page story.
So while the press have watch what the say about the likes of Tom Cruise, in effect they can publish whatever they like about you or I. Or Robert Murat.
Really? That's disguting? I always thought that if you wanted to accuse someone of something, you actually had to have some sort of evidence otherwise YOU could be in trouble yourself. Surely that malkes some sense otherwise people could point the finger at eachother all day long without come sort of reasoning behind it?
RM has been made a suspect then just because some one SAID? Not because there seems to be something that may link him to the crime in the long run?
One day your life will flash before your eyes..... make sure it is worth watching...
And again you move the goal posts.
My post about LIBEL (or slander/defamation) was in response to yours and Matt's posts about making allegations. NOT about the Police arresting someone and, as is possible in Portugal (unlike the UK) nameing them as a suspect.
As to what evidence the police need to arrest someone, then yes, one eyewitness statement may be enough. To actually charge someone, and remember Robert Murat hasn't been charged with anything, you would need much more coroborating evidence.
Normal people do not go around pointing the finger at each other all day long. Occationally, false allegations are made to the police or published in the press. Most false allegation to the police would be weeded out before getting to the point of anyone being charged. If the police believe the person who made the allegation did so knowing it to be false, then they can be prosecuted for IIRC Perverting the Course of Justice.
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