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Could have used a half decent picture of me Nina
I'm all agog to hear more about Nina's latest response to her exposure here and on BadPsychics - apparently she has claimed that there has been some mysterious 'police involvement at a local level' not connected to her healing abilities or lack thereof. What CAN she be referring to?
It could of course be an excuse to explain her disappearance from the forums or maybe it was just a childish threat.
http://www.odyssey.moonfruit.com/ske...tes/4526534120
Could have used a half decent picture of me Nina
This is a screenshot of her website (thanks to forum member Dippy) prior to being ‘found out’
But, as you know, she DID claim she had successfully treated cancer, as this, from BadPsychics indicates.
It suggests she has a problem with the truth. Although "successfully treated" isn't the same as "cured", I suppose. The let-out for tricksters.
From http://moh2005.proboards78.com/index...ead=1195785406
Last edited by bindeweede; 19th January 2008 at 09:57 PM.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear
bright, until you hear them speak.
Well that proves even further how untruthful she is. Not that we needed further proof
Hayley, congratulations you clearly are irritating the woos
Your link to Odssey Healing Centre, contains an interesting challenge from Nina:
'Unless you can PROVE and have EVIDENCE to confirm what you are saying, kindly keep your opinions to yourself...'
Presumably this means that in her world she can prove what she does works and that the articles where she is alleged to have claimed to treat cancer have been modified by others to create this impression.
This parallel universe is clearly one where REAL PROOF is found in testimonials, and where objective evidence is mere hearsay.
The art of medicine consists in amusing the patient while nature cures the disease. Voltaire
Wouldn't it be a benefit to the world if the claims of this woman could be genuinely tested, and everyone could find out what she can or cannot do?
Last edited by bindeweede; 19th January 2008 at 10:09 PM. Reason: re-wording.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear
bright, until you hear them speak.
Someone should explain to Nina - in words of one syllable and with pictures, if necessary - that she is the one making extraordinary claims, therefore she should be able to produce extraordinary evidence. By toning down the claims made on her website she has admitted that they were, to put it mildly, misleading. It's interesting to note that Gary Mannion has also altered the wording on his sites after getting some unwelcome publicity here and on BadPsychics, proof that sceptics can made a dent in the edifice of woo. I'm sure both Nina and Gary must be aware that we will be keeping an eye on everything they do from now on.
And I still smile when I think of Nina's hilarious attempt at sock puppetry!
It's not really a let-out though..Section 4 of the Cancer Act 1939 provides that with some exceptions (such as publishing in technical journals, providing info to registered medical practitioners, pharmacists etc ) it is an offence for a person to take part in the publication of any advertisement containing an offer to treat any person for cancer, to prescribe a remedy for it or to give any advice in connection with the treatment of it.Originally Posted by bindeweede
Sooo...publishing advertising claims (and I think Nina’s website arguably comes under that definition) to ‘treat’ cancer, ‘prescribe remedy’ or give ‘any advice in connection with the treatment of it’ is just as illegal as claiming to ‘cure' it. Also, even if someone (an oncologist or surgeon) can cure cancer, they are still not allowed to advertise it in a way which contravenes the Act.
Nina's not out of the woods yet.
Does anybody have any info on how often prosecutions are made under the Cancer Act? I know it doesn't happen often, but could anything be done to change this? Woo-merchants get to make wild claims unchallenged and yet the very real work that medical professionals do to fight cancer must be so much more restrained in what can publicised....
Last edited by dalriada; 20th January 2008 at 08:06 PM. Reason: adding a bit
"Expect the Inquisition..."
Dalriada,
Thanks for that. Nina has removed "cancer" from the list of conditions she can treat. Actually, her site now merely list conditions she has "successfully alleviated", according to BadPsychics.
http://moh2005.proboards78.com/index...0781200&page=2
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear
bright, until you hear them speak.
From Nina's site. Does this make sense?Nina: No doctor will tell you everyone can be cured, there are no guarantee's, I can't do this either, I can say I have a high success rate when I have been able to.
Also from Nina's site...I'm wondering if this is the same as "Psychic Surgery" as performed by Gary Mannion.As well as Spiritual Healing I am also able to practise as a Spiritual Surgery Practitioner. This started in 1999 during my Helaing work at the Odyssey Healing Centre in Burnham-on-Sea.
More...I wonder where that leaves the NHS.I trained under Tony and Margaret Payne, Glastonbury at the N.F.S.H (National Federation of Spiritual Healers) the largest healing organisation in the UK.
Last edited by bindeweede; 20th January 2008 at 10:42 PM.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear
bright, until you hear them speak.
I wonder if Nina offers "Etheric Spiritual Surgery", as described here..
http://www.centre-of-serenity.com/Et...al_Surgery.htm
I don't think I'd let one of these people anywhere near me with a laser, or anything else, really."Techniques conventionally used in a hospital by surgeons can also be used by Spirit Surgeons. But they also make full use of colour energy, lasers & "hi tech" equipment, which we have yet to discover".
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear
bright, until you hear them speak.
You can now hear Nina doing her thing on a Podcast:
http://www.thisiswesterndailypress.c...ommand=newPage
First it was the Wiltshire Times, then then the Wiltshire Guardian, now the Western Daily Press is whoring after woo-woos. It must be lovely having the local media queue up to give you free publicity, but it's funny how a psychic's ludicrous claims are newsworthy but exposure of that same psychic's lies generally isn't.
Last edited by Julia; 21st January 2008 at 05:52 PM. Reason: Typo
Exposure = work for a journalist and a one-time story
Far easier to have the woo write the story for you over and over again.
"I'm putting on me top hat,
Lah-di-dah me new shoes,
Standing on me tail"
How exactly do they use equipment, hi-tech or otherwise, that they haven't discovered yet?
Better sorry than safe.
Bump for this thread, since Nina is up to her old tricks of a)lying about the people who are "studying" her abilities, and b)using testimonials from cancer patients.
"If I get rid of the cancer and the person decides they don’t want treatment any more ‐ either they’re too busy, or they’re too mean with their money, or they just think they know better ‐ the cancer often comes back. And if it comes back, I can’t get rid of it a second time. My healing doesn’t work a second time."
Adrian Pengelly
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