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    Unhappy Body Shock: Kill Me to Cure Me

    Caught this body shock episode last night in the early hours. Gist of the documentary was;

    Guy has an aneurysm in a particularly tricky part of the brain and the only way they can operate is to induce hypothermia, stop his heart beating and remove the blood from his body (thus shrinking/collapsing the aneurysm). When done they simply re-heat the blood and get it moving, the heart automatically starts in many cases and he wakes up a few hours later. Incredibly dangerous, lots of potential complications, they guy is dead for 20 minutes and he comes out of it 100%. No ill effects.

    To me that was awe inspiring enough. It was great to watch, really interesting.

    Then they go and spoil it by talking about consciousness and soul, contemplating where ‘he’ goes when his physical brain is turned off.

    The family give us their fantastic insight ("he was being held by an angel") then they do an interview with a woman who had a similar operation and claims to have had an out of body experience, met her dead grandma, saw herself being operated on etc.

    Seriously, why do they feel the need to go there?

    http://www.onthebox.com/program/1606...o-cure-me.aspx
    "Look at life from our perspective, and you eukaryotes will soon cease giving yourself such airs. You bipedal apes, you stump-tailed tree-shrews, you desiccated lobe-fins, you vertebrated worms, you Hoxed-up sponges, you newcomers on the block, you eukaryotes, you barely distinguishable congregations of a monotonously narrow parish, you are little more than fancy froth on the surface of bacterial life."
    Watch out, the bacteria are pissed off.

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    Re: Body Shock: Kill Me to Cure Me

    Hello,

    I've searched high and low for this documentary for months now... Seems it have been taken down from every possible website i've come in contact with... Do you have any idea where i can go to find this thing... I will even purchase it... However it seems "Bodyshock" doesn't even have an official website or anything...

    thank you for your time,

    Patrick,

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    Re: Body Shock: Kill Me to Cure Me

    Quote Originally Posted by LucaAltieri View Post
    Seriously, why do they feel the need to go there?
    Because its part of the human experience, not everything in life revolves around science and logic, wether he was being held by an angel or not is totally irrelevant, that fact he believed he was has far reaching implications.

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    wether he was being held by an angel or not is totally irrelevant, that fact he believed he was has far reaching implications
    what, "he believed," has nothing to do with anything. if a doctor thinks you are being irrational he sections you, ie, locks you up in a psychiatric ward until he thinks you are better.
    better in this case means," scosialy realined,"
    scosialy realined, means turned back into a good little consumer, but if you are irrational and keep on shopping, they will do nothing to help you. trust me i know.
    so you see it is sometimes dangerous to make up stupid little stories, especialy totaly insane ones about angels holding your hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dashwood View Post
    what, "he believed," has nothing to do with anything.
    I disagree, i think peoples beliefs are everything to do with everything, by pure virtue of that they are that persons reality and way of functioning, wether others agree with them or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by dashwood View Post
    if a doctor thinks you are being irrational he sections you, ie, locks you up in a psychiatric ward until he thinks you are better..
    If that was true, everybody would be in a mental hospital.

    Quote Originally Posted by dashwood View Post
    better in this case means," scosialy realined," .
    scosialy realined, means turned back into a good little consumer, but if you are irrational and keep on shopping, they will do nothing to help you. trust me i know.
    so you see it is sometimes dangerous to make up stupid little stories, especialy totaly insane ones about angels holding your hand.
    ??? have you had somekind of strange experience? perhaps you would like to share and see what others think?
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    Re: Body Shock: Kill Me to Cure Me

    Quote Originally Posted by VoodooJoe View Post
    Because its part of the human experience, not everything in life revolves around science and logic, wether he was being held by an angel or not is totally irrelevant, that fact he believed he was has far reaching implications.
    It had nothing to do with anything. The show wasn't about the guy or his family as such, more the amazing skill of the doctors involved. Including that kind of claptrap added nothing to the film.
    "Look at life from our perspective, and you eukaryotes will soon cease giving yourself such airs. You bipedal apes, you stump-tailed tree-shrews, you desiccated lobe-fins, you vertebrated worms, you Hoxed-up sponges, you newcomers on the block, you eukaryotes, you barely distinguishable congregations of a monotonously narrow parish, you are little more than fancy froth on the surface of bacterial life."
    Watch out, the bacteria are pissed off.

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    Re: Body Shock: Kill Me to Cure Me

    Quote Originally Posted by LucaAltieri View Post
    It had nothing to do with anything. The show wasn't about the guy or his family as such, more the amazing skill of the doctors involved. Including that kind of claptrap added nothing to the film.
    So what you are saying is that the technics of bringing someone back from the dead are more interesting than its implications?

    I have not spent 8 years in med school so i am limited in what i can appreciate in terms of the actual skill of these doctors (of course that doesnt detract away from the sense of wonder in the thing these amazingly clever people did).

    The social, psychological and philosophical implications of what they did would seem to be more accessible and interesting to the average joe, but thats just my opinion.
    Last edited by VoodooJoe; 17th April 2008 at 12:15 AM.

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