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  1. #46

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    Quote Originally Posted by techowiz View Post
    Note how similar the postcodes are,

    NW11 6GZ
    NW11 6NA
    This is hardly surprising. The PO box postcode is the Golders Green sorting office, and the other is a typical postcode for that part of Hampstead Garden Suburb. When I lived near there my postcode also started with "NW11 6".
    Be skeptical of the things you believe are false, but be very skeptical of the things you believe are true.

  2. #47

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    Quote Originally Posted by techowiz View Post
    Seems that the address, 67 -69 George Street is a very popular address..........
    This is also hardly surprising. Small companies very often have their registered addresses at the office of the accountant or of a professional company secretary. This does not imply any other connection between these companies, so it is highly premature to start postulating any sort of cartel in operation here.

    I get the impression the MD has a couple of minimal capital companies set up with a friend/partner. The £2 paid up share capital suggests the minimum two directors with the minimum shareholding of £1 each. There is nothing intrinsically dodgy about this - many small businesses start out this way (any a lot of them never get any further) - though it is true that anyone wanting to start up a throw-away company to push a product with high risk of failure would probably also set it up in this way.

    £20,000-odd total assets seems very much on the low side for a company manufacturing and marketing the range of products they claim, but again, that does not of itself imply any sort of dodgy dealing.

    I see no evidence that there is any business impropriety going on here, and I think we should target our criticism instead on the technical plausibility of what appears to be a dowsing rod for detecting drugs and explosives.
    Be skeptical of the things you believe are false, but be very skeptical of the things you believe are true.

  3. #48

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    Trinoc, you are quite right. We are only interested in Alpha 6 and Coms Trac/Simon Sherrard. This is now added to the other targets i.e. ATSC (ADE 651) and Global Technical (GT200)

    We are not sure about how or when the Alpha 6 came into existence. Perhaps Mr. Sherrard simply saw the others and thought I'll have a go at that scam as well, or maybe he has connections with ATSC or Global Technical?

    Anyway, we are formulating a plan to get wider exposure of these scams and try to get the scum who sell this rubbish out of business. Any assistance with this gratefully received. We will keep strategy/tactics to PMs

    Cheers,
    DD
    You cannae kid a kidder kiddo!

  4. #49

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubious Dick View Post
    We will keep strategy/tactics to PMs
    You could always start a thread on the Seekrit board.
    Be skeptical of the things you believe are false, but be very skeptical of the things you believe are true.

  5. #50

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    Quote Originally Posted by Trinoc View Post
    I see no evidence that there is any business impropriety going on here, and I think we should target our criticism instead on the technical plausibility of what appears to be a dowsing rod for detecting drugs and explosives.
    I never said there was any impropriety and it is a not an angle of attack that I am interested in.
    If you care to look at comments I have made on other forums and not least the Blog I created at:-
    explosivedetectorfrauds
    You would see that I am clearly targeting the fraud that is the dowsing rod for detecting explosives and drugs.
    regards

  6. #51

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    Quote Originally Posted by techowiz View Post
    I never said there was any impropriety and it is a not an angle of attack that I am interested in.
    If you care to look at comments I have made on other forums and not least the Blog I created at:-
    explosivedetectorfrauds
    You would see that I am clearly targeting the fraud that is the dowsing rod for detecting explosives and drugs.
    That's OK. It's just that from your posts in here you seemed to be inviting us to deduce something from the similarity of postcodes (implying only that the PO box is at the local sorting office) and the various companies with the same address (several clients of the same accountant or whatever), which was not justified by the evidence presented.
    Be skeptical of the things you believe are false, but be very skeptical of the things you believe are true.

  7. #52

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    Quote Originally Posted by Trinoc View Post
    That's OK.
    I am most humbled by your gracious acceptance of my efforts. Please continue to moderate my posts and pass comment as you see fit.

  8. #53

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    Quote Originally Posted by techowiz View Post
    I am most humbled by your gracious acceptance of my efforts. Please continue to moderate my posts and pass comment as you see fit.
    What the hell is this all about ... ?

    If you don't want anyone to comment on your posts as part of the debate perhaps you should add a disclaimer to that effect at the end of the post.
    Be skeptical of the things you believe are false, but be very skeptical of the things you believe are true.

  9. #54

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    PUSH FOR ACTION

    We have certainly managed to put the wind up Jim McCormick at ATSC, Gary Bolton at Global Technical and our new 'friend' Simon at Coms Trac. We now need to make a big push against these fraudsters to see some real action.

    If you have a website or blog then please link to the following blogs to help their Google rankings:

    http://sniffexquestions.blogspot.com

    http://explosivedetectorfrauds.blogspot.com

    http://ade651gt200scamfraud.blogspot.com

    Many thanks for any help you can give.

    We are getting some media interest and will be pursuing this vigorously.

    And if Jim, Gary and Simon are reading this, A VERY UNHAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU!
    You cannae kid a kidder kiddo!

  10. #55

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment - SNIFFEX to be tested?

    Looking through Lumpys fine blog at:

    http://sniffexquestions.blogspot.com

    I noticed that despite the collapse of SNIFFEX in the U.S. a German company is still peddling it in Europe. I wrote to them via the email on their site. Admittedly i used a few choice words to describe what they do. Anyway, here is the reply. A positive offer to take the MDC?

    Dear Peter,

    Thank you for your email but you are terribly wrong because not SNIFFEX is a fraud but the people, who were running the SNIFFEX Inc. company have misused the device for stock manipulation (this is my personal opinion) and thus have created a terrible reputation for a really powerful device that is being blamed ever since then.

    We took over distribution from the inventor and manufacturer TASC Ltd. 2006 for the European Market and since 1.1.2009 we are the worldwide exclusive distributor.

    Since then we have sold a lot of devices to governmental organizations, security companies around the globe, who all thought that SNIFFEX is a fraud but who changed their opinion after we succeeded in personal demonstrations and tests. Since 2006 we have completed more than 100 tests to official organizations and we have since then not had one single test that failed but all showed great results with detection rates of +75% for common explosives from distances from 2-100 meters (show me any other device that can do this!).

    If you look at the videos in you tube showing Paul Johnson or other SNIFFEX Inc. personnel you understand that they have no clue what they are doing – and that is a shame indeed and I blame them for this! They have really made our life very difficult and we had to work very hard to correct this image!

    In addition the device has been refined since then significantly. Today we are selling SNIFFEX®Plus, which is the latest generation that works much better than devices from the first generation.

    I have attached the current brochure for your information.

    I don’t know, who Jim McCormick is but I am happy to talk to him and to try to support him best possible. I also don’t know what personal damage you have experienced, I am sorry for this but we are not to blame!

    SNIFFEX®Plus is no fraud and we can prove it – we have numerous recommendations and test report from official organizations that are using the device and are very happy about the device.

    We are willing to participate in any type of test to proof the capabilities of the device – no problem but I cannot accept, to be insulted or threatened from you. So let’s keep it on a professional level, please!

    My coordinates are as below, I am available for any kind of professional conversation at any time.

    Best regards from Germany

    David Vollmar


    David Vollmar
    Managing Director

    unival group of companies
    German Procurement Services GmbH
    Am Hofgarten 4
    53113 Bonn
    Germany

    GSM: +49 151 12110637
    Fon.: +49 228 688 36 58
    Fax: +49 228 688 36 59
    david.vollmar@unival-group.com
    Skype ID: dv_at_skype

    HRB: 14264
    District Court Bonn
    VAT ID: DE232565058
    Managing Director: David Vollmar

    www.unival-group.com / www.gps-security.net / www.sniffex-eu.com


    Perhaps someone else who can keep their annoyance at these fraudsters better concealed than I, would like to take up the dialogue with this guy to see whether they really can be drawn into a proper test?

    Of course, one doubts this will get far, but maybe worth a try.
    You cannae kid a kidder kiddo!

  11. #56

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    What the heck. Have had a go at getting them to take the MDC and here is the latest series of emails between me and Vollmar for your delectation:

    ME TO VOLLMAR


    You said you would take any test. As usual the excuses start right away. The JREF testing would simply be double blind and agreed in advance as to the protocol. It is totally an objective approach. Just no cheating allowed. Of course you would avoid it because you know you are a fraud! If not take the challenge!!

    And of course, Governments are often fooled into buying rubbish.

    Where are the protocols and test results for your so called double blind testing?


    VOLLMAR TO ME


    No excuses necessary..

    Let’s set it up in Germany, your choice of location, we are ready! We define the layout for testing because we will do strict far-field detection between 2-50 meters, as per our technical description. Will make sure that professional personnel is available and K9 as well. Our partner in Germany is WISAG (see attached reference letter).They are a using the device since 2005!

    Mr. Randi is cordially invited!

    BR



    ME TO VOLLMAR


    Mr. Vollmar,

    I think you have misunderstood. You do not define the layout for testing. The protocol would need to be agreed by both JREF and yourselves. The protocol would be double blind.

    I will make contact with the JREF to indicate that you are willing to submit the SNIFFEX Plus for testing, and then you will be able to enter into direct negotiations with them over the protocol, location etc.

    Thank you


    VOLLMAR TO ME


    We are definitely willing to discuss with JREF and create a proper form of communication unlike the communication between JR and SNIFFEX Inc. previously.

    Will take things from there and if we can find a “fair” basis to conduct tests, we are open! But it must be very clear that SNIFFEX®Plus is not a paranormal device but is based on a scientific assumption of measurement of magnetic interferences.

    So let’s work something out.



    ME TO VOLLMAR


    Dear Mr. Vollmar,

    I am not sure what you mean by saying that the communication between SNIFFEX Inc and JREF was not "proper".

    Previously you said you did not know about the JREF. Where did you see that communication? Usually claimants get very upset when they cannot control the testing because of course it means that the testing cannot be cheated. I will be interested to take a look at the communication you mention.

    In the meantime I am forwarding your details to JREF and look forward to testing of Sniffex Plus. I do not think the issue of paranormal is a problem. The challenge has been made to ADE 651, Quadro Tracker and Sniffex Inc in the past on the basis that the science is simply not credible.




    VOLLMAR TO ME

    I learned from the communication on Mr. Randi’s webpage when I was reading about the Million Dollar contest.

    Will wait for next steps fro, JREF or yourself.

    BR

    DV



    ME TO VOLLMAR


    Dear Mr. Vollmar,

    The best way to progress with the JREF Challenge is to formally register your willingness to participate via this email address:

    challenge@randi.org

    Please be patient. The staff at JREF are very busy.

    I look forward to watching your progress with interest.


    ME TO VOLLMAR


    Mr. Vollmar,

    I cannot find the SNIFFEX U.S. communications on the JREF website. Please can you provide me a page link to what you saw there?

    Thank you.
    You cannae kid a kidder kiddo!

  12. #57

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    Stick with this DD, try not to get led away on tangents though, keep focused on getting them in contact with the JREF.

  13. #58

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    Oh No another bloody fraud being marketed and sold from the UK:-
    Check out the website does this look familiar??????

    Intelligence Counter Security & Surveillance

    U.K.Ltd., 39 Brick Lane, London E1 6PU,Tel: 08712641758,Fax:448712648847
    www.icssuk.com,
    E-mail: sales@icssuk.com

    PSD-22 Programmable Substance Detector
    Early warning indicator and direction finder for explosive and contraband detection function in cold/dry/humid condition.

    The System does not require the user to be any less than 200m-300m away from the required substance will direct the operative either to the container or the room where the contraband may.
    Once a specific area has been targeted and detected the group of substance by multi-programmable Card and easily pinpointing system to allow safe removal.

  14. #59

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    Quote Originally Posted by Trinoc View Post
    What the hell is this all about ... ?
    If you don't want anyone to comment on your posts as part of the debate perhaps you should add a disclaimer to that effect at the end of the post.
    In all the excitement I missed your response. I have now applied the anti-arsehole filter to my threads, so if you have trouble posting you will know what the problem is...........

  15. #60

    Re: Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

    Ummm...are any of these addresses residential addresses?
    Because I would be a bit concerned that you are openly publishing people's home addresses.

    Yes, I know information is available from Companies House, but that doesn't necessarily mean you should make it available to any old nutter who wanders in off the interwebz.

    I don't know if it's legal or not, in fact. Potentally actionable, I should have thought, but I don't know.

    (Please don't use his line of business as a defence)
    Snaffling sheep from the flock of woo
    -bobdezon

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