Detect the ADE 651 Detection Equipment

[Dubious Dick]

Just to clarify. I asked Rod not to quote me for reasons of confidentiality as well as the fact that I am just an amateur camapigner. I do not yet know where Rod picked up the story. Certainly some of the info looks like it came from our sources, but I am not out to seek any credit for this. Just to keep the story rolling as far as possible.

It is a fact that I picked up on the JREF challenge to Cumberland Industries (an agent of ATSC/Jim McCormick. Took an interest because it was a UK outfit, and then discovered the links to ATSC. Then, mainly through some sustained emailing campaigns, and help from some of you guys digging up info e.g. companies house, etc, a small group of us have tried to keep some momentum on the thing, discovered that there are a few more purveyors of this dowsing poop, and tried to stir up trouble for them where we can. I hope that this pressure has had some part in disrupting their businesses!!

We had a small but important victory when Global Technical were ordered by the MOD to remove references to UK approvals. Now this article which hopefully will send shockwaves through the whole damn business.

Someone who really should take credit is LUMPY of Questions anout Sniffex blog, which has been reporting assiduously on the scamsters for some time.

Thanks for positive comments though.

[navybombguy]

DD,
I would like to discuss with you off the forum. I recently came back from Iraq and was DIRECTLY involved with Iraq Security Forces using this device. thanks,
NBG

[techowiz]

Hi Navybombguy,

I am aware that DD is busy with some things at the moment and may not respond as quickly as you like.
I have been working with DD on this project virtually from the beginning you can pm me if it would help to get things moving.
regards

[bindeweede]

I see Ben Goldacre has written about the issue.

It’s always interesting when people take pseudoscience out of its natural habitat – Islington – and off into a place where the stakes are quite high. Like the polio vaccine scare in Nigeria. Or Aids denialism in South Africa. Or detecting bombs in Iraq, where the New York Times and magician James Randi have uncovered a nonsense of truly epic proportions.

http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/wtf/#more-1397

[ollybee]

The publication where you would expect to find research into this area is the IEEE Sensors Journal. This is published by the IEEE Sensors Council. If this organisation could be persuaded to make some sort of statement on the supposed science behind the scam devices I'm sure it would be helpful.

I could contact them myself but i have only been reading about this for exactly one hour since I read the Bad Science article at the beginning of my lunch break.

[salimfadhley]

Is there anybody who can speak about this topic for the Pod Delusion podcast. I'd like to do a short telephone interview about this, preferably tonight.

Please DM me via this forum if you can help?

Thanks!

[Dubious Dick]

DD,
I would like to discuss with you off the forum. I recently came back from Iraq and was DIRECTLY involved with Iraq Security Forces using this device. thanks,
NBG

Hi NBG. be happy to make contact. Have tried a PM but yours is turned off. Please PM me and I'll get back.

Cheers,
DD

[Dubious Dick]

Is there anybody who can speak about this topic for the Pod Delusion podcast. I'd like to do a short telephone interview about this, preferably tonight.

Please DM me via this forum if you can help?

Thanks!

Hi Salim, Have PMed you and look forward to response.

Cheers.
DD

[until_then]

Hello Everybody,

This is my first post here.

I just want to say that I hope all the scammers who sell these fraudulent detection devices get shut down real quick. Let's spread the word in any way we can, whether it's by blog, email, airmail, snailmail, ANYMAIL. We have to stop these unscrupulous vendors.

I hope the podcast works out, and any journalist who writes and contributes to this cause should be commended.

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

Belated well done to DD.

[techowiz]

Hi DD,
Have sent you an email, give me a shout.
To everyone else Mr Jim is responding to comments on his blog at:

http://ade651.blogspot.com/

You can see for some reason he does not appear to like me
He will of course not answer any questions, usually because he does not know the answer, but it is funny to extract some comment out of him which goes to show how ridiculous he is.
regards

[tolman]

I see he's making good use of his drool dots (.....).
They're almost always a good guide to the quality one can expect from someone's writing, even before one starts looking at the words.

[salimfadhley]

Sorry I missed you Dubious Dick - I just posted a PM to you with my contact details. Let's see if I have better luck this time.

[techowiz]

Hello Everybody,

This is my first post here.

I just want to say that I hope all the scammers who sell these fraudulent detection devices get shut down real quick. Let's spread the word in any way we can, whether it's by blog, email, airmail, snailmail, ANYMAIL. We have to stop these unscrupulous vendors.

I hope the podcast works out, and any journalist who writes and contributes to this cause should be commended.

Do what we have done write to your MP and your local papers. Keep us posted of any progress.
regards

[salimfadhley]

Still looking for a person who is willing to talk about this on a podcast. I tried to contact Dubious Dick, but the complexities of this forum's DM system elude me. My twitter ID is @salimfadhley if anybody wants to try another means of contacting me. Ideally I'd like to record tonight.