Hello all,
I'm complete skeptical,and I know coincidence,"remember hit/forget miss" etc. I also had dejavu dreams,some hit dreams but they were all coincidence.But I have a problem with my 1 weird dream experience.I can't explain it to me that was a coincidence.
Dream:I saw a friend who I haven't been contact for 12 years in my dream.I didn't have friendship with him and I even forget him years ago.I saw him private messaging on facebook in my dream (he isn't a member of facebook in real life).I woke up,and want to check facebook that morning.I saw that he signed up facebook that night.
I only find that facebook is "find oldschool friend"'s place and I contact a few of my old friend here but that person wasn't a friend of mine and I also forgot his face/name etc.
I really stuck here.I don't believe in paranormal things,they're bs.However,I have problems with accepting this situation is coincidence or my mind collected evidence-there wasn't any-
Additional:I had truman show disorder that I thought everybody(family) is actor,but I over it.The weird part is;I saw him private messaging to somebody and said to her "ShadowSong's father isn't real one".Which is definitely related to truman show movie.That part is my obsession/fear,so the other part must be my mind's product too but how?
Looks like a variant on the old "I just thought about X for the first time in years and five minutes later X phoned me" story. Seems amazing, until you realise how many people you think about randomly all of the time who don't call (so you don't remember thinking/dreaming about them), and how many people who call that you didn't just think/dream about. The mind spots coincidences -- it's something it's very good at -- and forgets almost all of the rest.
Be skeptical of the things you believe are false, but be very skeptical of the things you believe are true.
If this really did happen.....then it's most likely to be a coincidence and I am not sure exactly why you dont think it is one.
Why is cheese?
Dreamed about Floppit last night. We were in a swamp filled with lizards looking at a car that had driven into it from an overhead bridge. Can't remember too much else about it, but what made me recall that is incredible ... this morning I see a post from Floppit, there are lizards crawling all over my garden, and Teddy Kennedy is being buried ...
@Trinoc,Dr B
As I said above,I have a lot of hit dreams,dejavu dreams and I know they are coincidences.And I also know phone telephaty concept which is only coincidence.When I think about my old friend "x",and he/she calls is just a coincidence.If I dream him/her is coincidence too.
However,this dream is kinda different.He isn't my friend,I forgot his name/face etc.And I also didn't have conversation with him,he was just a person from my oldschool.And I also nearly remember 1 dream per night and I haven't dreamt him before.
If I dreamt my old friend who I haven't been contact for 12 years,and he showed up next day,it's coincidence.But If I dreamt a person that I just saw a couple of times at school and he also wasn't my friend and I forgot him and he show up next day,I got confused.
This must be coincidence too but I guess I had problems with odds or something else.What am I missing?Can people also some hit dreams about "background people",after 10 years?
@DrS
I didn't mention any stupid "symbolical" dreams.And I also didn't mention about my hit dreams.I just live a different experience and I want to know "how" this is happened.
It is still a coincidence - the content of the dream is not necessarily evidence against this interpretation (which you seem to be hinting at that it is).
You might also want to do some research on flashbulb memories as well.for some interesting insights on how memory and insight works.
Why is cheese?
I just check the internet and I understand your point.But,I need to read more about memory.
On the other hand,I got another question about dreams.When I saw calculations about truly big numbers and dreams,I understand that all dreams are coincidence.On the other hand,I doubt there's problem with calculation.
If 6 billion people had 4 dream at night,then there'll be some people dream of somebody's death,and it'll come true.However,they assume that we all remember dreams.This isn't true.They assume we remember 15 billion dreams per night.But we don't.I haven't seen any people who remember 2 dream per night.
Secondly;I wonder one additional thing.My brother told me every dream that he remember and he only remember 10 of his dreams and 1 of them is a hit dream.When we think about all human's dreams(15billion dream per night),it's coincidence.But if we think my brother dream's amount;he had 9 miss dream and 1 hit dream which is weird.If he haven't got any hit dreams and keep on remembering dream same rate;he'll have 1 hit, 30 miss dreams which is still weird.
Last edited by ShadowSong; 30th August 2009 at 04:26 PM.
I think we have answered your question and we wish you well with your reading
Why is cheese?
Nope.You haven't answered my questions.
And I suppose that you don't have answers.You only read about selection bias,law of truly large numbers but you and Trinoc didn't think about of them.When I said dream you just reply "hit/miss,phone telephaty etc" what I accepted them as a coincidence.
That's why I don't sign-up to skeptic forums.I believe in skeptic way,but you don't believe in skeptic way,you just refuse things related to paranormal.I refuse them too but I try to figure it out what's happening.
When a person said that "I doubt there's problem with their calculation." and try to figure it something and you simply answer to him "i have answered your question",you probably just know nothing about this topic.
I shouldn't reply after DrS stupid message but I tried to figure out what's happening.Anyway,delete this topic please,and keep mocking up people's experience.
Last edited by ShadowSong; 30th August 2009 at 06:01 PM.
Why is my reply stupid? Every word was true, and the coincidence was increased by you posting a thread about dreams!
You could have seen your friend's name as a friend of a friend on Facebook; he could have signed up earlier than you think; you clearly use Facebook regularly otherwise why check first thing in the morning, so you might well have seen his name there, triggering the dream. If he was suddenly active, then it could easily explain his PM to you ... and perhaps many other people he was looking for.
Facebook is pretty notorious, I understand, for messing up posts, losing them, mis-timing them. Can you accept the possibility that you saw your old friend's name without realizing it, then had a dream about him, and then he PMd you as part of the activity you subconsciously had seen earlier?
Originally Posted by ShadowSong
and so you reveal your true motivation and show us all the hand you are really holding.....
Last edited by Dr B; 30th August 2009 at 07:17 PM.
Why is cheese?
If I was getting very excited about the lizards you might be psychic!Dreamed about Floppit last night. We were in a swamp filled with lizards looking at a car that had driven into it from an overhead bridge. Can't remember too much else about it, but what made me recall that is incredible ... this morning I see a post from Floppit, there are lizards crawling all over my garden, and Teddy Kennedy is being buried ...
I never see lizards (pet shops and zoos don't count). I've just missed countless numbers of wild lizard sightings despite my best efforts. Hubby even photographed one close up in the Lakes but - guess what? I missed it! On a brighter note I've seen small blue butterflies, a grass snake, hares a'plenty and a big flying thing I SWEAR wasn't a buzzard in Scotland.
Has that cleared things up any?
Anyone who doesn't believe that occurances with very long odds can be coincidences should consider this: the odds against winning the National Lottery jackpot are 14 million to one, but people keep winning, almost every week!
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Forget about how many people dream what every night. Who cares!
Look at this way: every incident in your life has a probanility. The ones with the longest odds may happen only once in your life or never at all. If you regularly dreamed about events that were about to happen, it could be precognition. If it only happened once, it is difficult to demionstrate that it is not a coincidence. Is there any other reason, beyond what coincidence could explain, for thinking it might be a paranormal event?
I have obsession disorder,and I'm searching for answer that dreams aren't precognitive,they're all coincidence.Because If they're precognitive,that make my dream is true one and I start to over-anxiety.
And that's why I think about all options.I of course accept that I saw him earlier without realizing and I then I saw him in my dream but that isn't true.He signup facebook and sent me friend request at 2pm,and I was sleeping at that hour.
Your first post=your third post=you're not here to find answers at all.and so you reveal your true motivation and show us all the hand you are really holding.....
Why you think like that?Yep I don't look for answers about dreaming.I don't care them if we see future or not;until I had a hit dream about my obsession.
Last edited by ShadowSong; 2nd September 2009 at 12:00 AM.
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