the pope attack \o/

[newatheist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpDffQJjm9c

I guess thats one way to get your point across lol. Pretty immature but really funny. whaddayathink? I suspect she's regretting it now though.

[brianp]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpDffQJjm9c

I guess thats one way to get your point across lol. Pretty immature but really funny. whaddayathink? I suspect she's regretting it now though.

What amused me was that the same lass tried to do the same thing last year (wearing the same clothes) but was intercepted just before she reached the pope. This rather suggests that the Vatican security service is absolutely incompetent. Someone might attack a President or PM once - they'd not get the chance to do it twice.

[newatheist]

What amused me was that the same lass tried to do the same thing last year (wearing the same clothes) but was intercepted just before she reached the pope. This rather suggests that the Vatican security service is absolutely incompetent. Someone might attack a President or PM once - they'd not get the chance to do it twice.

They believed that the security was good enough, no need to prove anything. *ba dum tish*

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

I love the way an organisation which tolerates paedophilia, believes in virgin births, zombies, exorcism and babies in limbo, has the brass neck to call someone "psychologically unstable"

[Floppit]

What I don't understand is the need for security at all, can't they just pray?

Apparently another elderly guy was knocked to the ground and broke a hip - that took the edge off the humour for me.

[wilde1980]

Maybe the number of people praying for something fun to happen outnumbered the people praying for nothing to happen and God is in fact all for Democracy and not Dictatorial as is widely believed

[Graham Lappin]

Interesting comment on this YouTube:

" Please look up the word secular. more deaths and murders have resulted from secular ideologies. Most killers have religious beliefs because they are people and most people have religious beliefs. Finally for the record two of the top five were heads of officially, dogmatically atheist nations, Mao and Stalin."

I have heard this argument many times and hardly know where to begin in terms of the logical fallacies. For a start it somewhat assumes a correlation where one may not exist. It also makes the mistake that Mao and Stalin killed in the name of atheism. I would be interested on the views of my fellow critical thinkers on this, as it's a very common argument.

[Matt]

Didn't kill in the name of atheism. I thought his cutrual revolution targetted organized religion.

[Floppit]

Interesting comment on this YouTube:

" Please look up the word secular. more deaths and murders have resulted from secular ideologies. Most killers have religious beliefs because they are people and most people have religious beliefs. Finally for the record two of the top five were heads of officially, dogmatically atheist nations, Mao and Stalin."

I have heard this argument many times and hardly know where to begin in terms of the logical fallacies. For a start it somewhat assumes a correlation where one may not exist. It also makes the mistake that Mao and Stalin killed in the name of atheism. I would be interested on the views of my fellow critical thinkers on this, as it's a very common argument.

I usually manage to annoy both sides of the fence! Whether somebody states something is in the name of religion OR atheism I don't think it means cause of murder is case closed. Atrocities take place in social and economic backgrounds which I have a hunch play the larger role, I think belief systems of all kinds then work more like a tool to bind people and cultivate 'us them' think. Getting and retaining power I reckon generally is the bottom line, from Bush to Pol Pot, the setting and the process have (I think) a grossly underrated role.

[Pebble]

Interesting comment on this YouTube:

" Please look up the word secular. more deaths and murders have resulted from secular ideologies. Most killers have religious beliefs because they are people and most people have religious beliefs. Finally for the record two of the top five were heads of officially, dogmatically atheist nations, Mao and Stalin."

I have heard this argument many times and hardly know where to begin in terms of the logical fallacies. For a start it somewhat assumes a correlation where one may not exist. It also makes the mistake that Mao and Stalin killed in the name of atheism. I would be interested on the views of my fellow critical thinkers on this, as it's a very common argument.

So it is simple - murders by religious people unless directly inspired by god's word are secular, all murders by non religious people are secular - so almost all murder is secular! Heads I win, tails you lose.