Can you lot cut the spelling digs? Please! You are making some of us feel bad...
I have plenty to ponder as it is...
Is the universe a mirror reflecting just me, or is it reflecting all of us?! How often does this mirror need cleaning? Who's responsibility is this cleaning? What effect will it have if left uncleaned? Does it matter?
How will I sleep?
don't flame pls
Also, they seem to track posts of people who are interested in their sites and try to convince them. I wonder why.
Pfff, well they don't seem to be tracking me much although the final poster seemed to have his head screwed on. :)
First, I have agree with others on the fact that many people believing something doesn't make it true.
We've seen that so many times in history where the majority of people believed totally wrong concepts, like the Earth being flat, for example.
That said, I personnally believe in the existence of some form of psychic abilities.
From my research on the subject, I found that many serious experiments had statistically significant results, but many scientists refuse to acknowledge them because they're afraid of being labelled for it and have it affect their perceived objectivity.
These experiments seem to follow pretty rigorous protocol, but the biggest reason I can see why they were not accepted by the general public is the level of significance.
Most people understand basic probabilities, but never heard of real statistical analysis like use of Chi squared calculations to determine if there was a significant statistical effect.
Even though I believe in PSI, I doubt that someone could become so good at it to get a significant outcome in less than a few thousand trials, otherwise they would be winning the lottery every 2 months. This makes it really hard for the general public, and even some pretty intelligent people to understand the outcome of this kind of research.
There are simple tests that can be used, like one I made on Facebook: http://apps.facebook.com/psychic-test. That can actually be good for skeptics too, as you'll be able to notice how picking 4 good cards out of 5 is not significant (chi squared: 9; 0.1 > p > 0.05), even though someone who would get it is either very lucky or does have some kind of skill.
Last year I read about a poll that showed that anonymously, many scientists do believe in some form of psychic phenomenon. Being open minded is actually essential in science, otherwise there would never be any kind of progress.
There are definately things that exist that are unknown or misunderstood by current science, and that'll probably always be the case.
There's plenty of research which gives positive results for PSI effects. It's the fact that these results cannot be reliably reproduced that is the problem.
If so, then how can you determine a real PSI result from a false positive?
If something is unknown how do you know it's unknown?
If something is misunderstood by science, how do you know it is?
I am not trying to prove the existence of PSI, especially to a group of skeptics who don't know anything about scientific research. My point was simply not to stupidly deny everything blindly.
That kind of thinking is exactly the same as the people who accepted that the Earth is flat because they couldn't see the curve. If that wasn't enough, they killed many who confronted their point of view.
I asked you how you can know that something is unknown. If it's unknown how can you know?
See the flaw in your assertion?
I think you're arguing against your own stereotype of what a skeptic is rather than engaging with the skeptics on here.
Those who persecuted people with real-world scientific perspectives were the religious. i.e. people who believed in something they couldn't see (you might even call them 'open minded' ).
'Croydon' Bob Newman. The ladies call him "Thrush" - as he's an irritating cunt.