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    Conspiracy theory goes mainstream

    "US President Barack Obama has described as "hateful" and "offensive" the claim by Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that most people believe the US government was behind the 9/11 attacks."

    From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11407326

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    It is hateful and offensive, but I will state it was not Isreal who was behind the attacks but Saudi Arabia!!!
    They were JEALOUS of the USA, and they had their motives, people read The House of Bush, The House of Saud.

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    Re: Conspiracy theory goes mainstream

    tiswas, have you had your lithium levels measured?
    The art of medicine consists in amusing the patient while nature cures the disease. Voltaire

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    Re: Conspiracy theory goes mainstream

    Quote Originally Posted by Harryprice View Post
    "US President Barack Obama has described as "hateful" and "offensive" the claim by Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that most people believe the US government was behind the 9/11 attacks."

    From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11407326
    Sadly for President Obama, Ahmadinejad may be onto something. There are a massive number of people who believe 9/11 was an inside job. That is not hateful or offensive - it's true. Whether most people believe it, I do not know.

    I am new on this forum, so I am reluctant to express my opinions on 9/11 as it is the single most heated subject I have seen on the internet.

    All you have to do is say something 'crazy' like...

    "Those planes clearly aren't holograms"

    ...and before you know it the internet is on fire with a hundred militant truthers calling you a 'noob' and trying to mentally disable you with their deadly sarcasm. Eventually you get accused of working for the CIA or being an infamous 'disinfo agent'.

    A standard online forum discussion about 9/11 will last for about fifteen pages. The last 3 pages are usually the funniest as that is where the really militant people lose it. Very often they will argue amongst themselves for months about the physical properties of concrete and steel and whether it is possible to hypnotise the whole of New York into seeing planes that don't exist, whilst CNN construct seperate CGI videos of the whole disaster for the news channels.

    By this point, most of the skeptics have left the discussion, because the truthers are doing a perfectly good job discrediting themselves with outrageous theories that make no sense. Even hardened conspiracy theorists will avoid such discussions like the plague.

    Anyway, getting back on track - Obama is putting a brave public face on a bad situation. He is doing the equivalent of putting his fingers in his ears and going 'NYAH! NYAH! NYAH!' - These people won't go away in a hurry. The internet is creating more of them every day. Some people would say that is a very sad state of affairs.

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    For once a Skeptic admits to a conspricarcy theory but it was not Isreal but Saudi Arabia wot dun it!!!
    Look at the facts
    Most, if not all the hijackers had Saudi connections
    A flight school in USA could not train a beginner to do this, and
    another thing is that Saudi Arabia is a JEALOUS NATION basically who hates the idea of other nations getting wealthy.
    Look when the oil runs out and the USA oil is run out, then the Moon will allow the Earth is resevoir of OIL to be used so that mankind is totally dependant on them forever, oh as for Saudi it won't be so powerful anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiswas View Post
    For once a Skeptic admits to a conspricarcy theory but it was not Isreal but Saudi Arabia wot dun it!!!
    Look at the facts
    Most, if not all the hijackers had Saudi connections
    A flight school in USA could not train a beginner to do this, and
    another thing is that Saudi Arabia is a JEALOUS NATION basically who hates the idea of other nations getting wealthy.
    Look when the oil runs out and the USA oil is run out, then the Moon will allow the Earth is resevoir of OIL to be used so that mankind is totally dependant on them forever, oh as for Saudi it won't be so powerful anymore.
    Hey, I didn't admit to anything.

    I just moaned a lot about 9/11 forums and said Obama is deliberately avoiding the modern cult of the internet conspiracy theorists.

    I have a tough time discussing 9/11. It's not good for stress you know?

    But for the record - I do not believe in holographic planes and my ideas on 9/11 are pretty boring.

    Just find a BBC documentary called The Power Of Nightmares. It doesn't say much about 9/11, but it clearly demonstrates how political ideologies kicked 9/11 into motion. It's extremely well made by an exceptional film maker.

    ...and it has no crazy hysterical bollocks.

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    JohnR, you have almost perfectly described the very long 911 thread on this forum. You can go read it if you have a spare month or two. So what do you think "really" happened?

    Tiswas - ever noticed that when gullibility goes up, ability to spell goes down? Or are you just having us on?
    Correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulW99 View Post
    Or are you just having us on?
    She's too pathetic to be real. Probably not the dribbling clown she's pretending to be at all. Just trolling us for a laugh - and I must admit I have been laughing a lot at her posts plus her various comedy blogs that nobody had ever even looked at until she posted the links here. But the joke is starting to wear thin now.
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    Bob, I think I agree with you there, it's all too perfect. I think it's one of the regulars on this site having a bit of a joke. Nobody could really be that thick. Could they? Nah.
    Correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulW99 View Post
    JohnR, you have almost perfectly described the very long 911 thread on this forum. You can go read it if you have a spare month or two. So what do you think "really" happened?

    Tiswas - ever noticed that when gullibility goes up, ability to spell goes down? Or are you just having us on?
    I am sure you already know what happened. Odds are, that certain aspects will differ with my particular belief.

    Then some other people will join in too.

    In 6 months MAYBE the discussion will get some closure.

    Suffice to say I am not that much of a conspiracy theorist, but I do despair at boundless human stupidity. That particular flaw in human behaviour had more to do with 9/11 than anything else. When powerful people attempt to impose their own ideologies onto the powerless, shit happens. And 9/11 was a pretty big shit.

    Neo-Conservatism is not very popular right now and George Bush has gone down in history as one of the worst american presidents. In some areas it is claimed that most of the world views the american government as a force for evil.

    When we analyse the opposing ideologies of neo-conservatism and Islamic radicalism and connect them to the above scenario, it becomes pretty obvious what happened.

    The conspiracy theorists have been duped, but they don't even realise it. It's really REALLY clever.

    ...but try and figure it out for yourself if you can. I got tired of the arguments long ago!

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    I DO know what really happened. Or at least I've convinced myself I do. But doesn't that apply to nearly everyone?

    Come on, just one sentence, tell me what "really happened". I am genuinely curious. I won't argue.

    Sorry for the hijack.

    PS Why in 6 months?
    Correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulW99 View Post
    I DO know what really happened. Or at least I've convinced myself I do. But doesn't that apply to nearly everyone?

    Come on, just one sentence, tell me what "really happened". I am genuinely curious. I won't argue.

    Sorry for the hijack.

    PS Why in 6 months?
    OK I promise I will answer at a later date. Don't have much time today - at work.

    Rest assured it's not hugely interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiswas View Post
    Look at the facts

    A flight school in USA could not train a beginner to do this
    Oh dear Tiswas you have messed up yet again.

    www.911myths.com/index.php/Flight_School_Dropouts

    Commercial pilots licences, they dont give those away on the back of cereal boxes.

    If you are thinking of the flight instructors comments in loose change you should know that the interview you saw was edited by the people that made loose change to fool you. Watch the whole unedited version and when asked the instructor says he has no doubt his x student could have done it.

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    Sorry double post.
    gl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croydon Bob View Post
    But the joke is starting to wear thin now.

    Couldn’t agree more .
    But this does illustrate the basic dichotomy of the WEB.
    Its greatest strength is that it gives a voice to anyone ,
    its greatest weakness is that it gives a voice to anyone .

    Caveat Emptor I suppose.
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