Would this be proof of Time Travel ?

**Eddy_P** · 27th October 2010, 02:11 AM

I go to my local library and borrow…3 historical and educational compact disks.

1).
From my own books, I re-read ancient accounts from the Middle East regarding Sumerian, Akkadian, and other myths.

* I observe that the sequence of pictures from one of the cd-roms - is the same as that described in all the ancient accounts.

2).
I re-read passages from the Old and New Testaments.

* I observe that (ignoring the given religious context) the described perceived Hebrew festivals documented by Moses, and the ‘future’ WAR descriptions documented by both Daniel and John - describe the sequence of events listed and shown on a second cd-rom.

3).
I re-read the astronomical references from the Bible.

* I observe that accounts in both the Old and New Testaments - describe the sequence of items listed and shown on a third cd-rom.

So basically, what I am asking your members, is

IF it could be shown that those modern cd-roms were NOT made in relation to nor influenced by the various ancient stories and accounts…

Would the documented accounts in all the different ancient texts be proof that a copies of those modern cd-roms were seen by ancient people, and their contents documented in their respective texts ?

**skbuncks** · 27th October 2010, 08:05 AM

No.

skb

**brianp** · 27th October 2010, 10:12 AM

It's a non-starter because you could never eliminate the possibility that the CD makers had been influenced by those ancient stories. You couldn't even eliminate the possibility of one's own knowledge being influenced by those ancient stories, let alone someone else's.

**Eddy_P** · 27th October 2010, 09:15 PM

OK.
What if it could be shown that over thirty ancient stories and texts from between 5,000 BCE to the late 1800s CE contain exact descriptions from three different mid 1990s cd-roms and two specific printed history books…
and there is a depiction of a compact disk in the front of an old Bible…
and within the Bible’s own words it describes a computer system…
and there is a picture of a plastic jewel case from the mid 1800s before plastic was invented…
and Egyptian Hieroglyphs depict computer technology…
and the associated Egyptian stories and texts describe the contents from two of the named mid 1990s cd-roms.

You may argue that pictures from one cd may have been influenced by one of the ancient texts.
But it is more than a coincidence to have the contents from three time independent cds of different topics and two independent history books turn up described in over 30 ancient texts spanning many thousands of years - where it is particularly reported that a messenger “showed and told me these things about the future”.

**tolman** · 27th October 2010, 10:38 PM

If there was so much proof around, and it is any good (not merely wishful thinking) why is it not already widely known and talked about?

Are we really so important here that we've been chosen to be the first to know, and to be (presumably soon) shown the convincing proof?
It would be flattering if so, but to be honest, it doesn't seem terribly likely.

If there is evidence, rather than talking about it in general terms, why not just present it, and let people make their own judgements as to its quality and to the objectiveness or otherwise of any interpretations of it?

For example, is 'a depiction of a compact disc' a couple of concentric circles, or something undeniably depicting a product conforming to one or other Philips/Sony [color] Book standards?

**tolman** · 27th October 2010, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by tolman

Are we really so important here that we've been chosen to be the first to know, and to be (presumably soon) shown the convincing proof?
It would be flattering if so, but to be honest, it doesn't seem terribly likely.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com...ic=151911&st=0

So, at least a year ago, and yet still no flood of people astonished by the evidence?

I guess it must either be a huge conspiracy, or the 'evidence' is crap, such as a 'CD' being a circle with a dot in it?
Personally, I'd have found heiroglyphs representing Reed-Solomon error correction a bit more convincing.

Also, what tiny time window would Time Travellers have been operating from if they took a desktop computer using CD-ROMs with them to ancient Egypt?

**Eddy_P** · 28th October 2010, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by tolman

If there was so much proof around, and it is any good (not merely wishful thinking) why is it not already widely known and talked about?

It has not been publicly released yet.

Originally Posted by tolman

If there is evidence, rather than talking about it in general terms, why not just present it, and let people make their own judgements as to its quality and to the objectiveness or otherwise of any interpretations of it?

There is a website which presents what you ask, but some forums do not like links to commercial websites.

Originally Posted by tolman

So, at least a year ago, and yet still no flood of people astonished by the evidence?

The project has been ongoing for over twelve years.
I personally started looking into Pegg’s claims in 2003, and so far I have investigated only about two-thirds of his discoveries.
I have been busy writing up my reports and often asking for help on various internet forums.
Some of those reports have not yet been published.
I still have at least another year of research and reports to conduct and write up.

**skbuncks** · 28th October 2010, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Eddy_P

OK.
What if it could be shown that over thirty ancient stories and texts from between 5,000 BCE to the late 1800s CE contain exact descriptions from three different mid 1990s cd-roms and two specific printed history books…
and there is a depiction of a compact disk in the front of an old Bible…
and within the Bible’s own words it describes a computer system…
and there is a picture of a plastic jewel case from the mid 1800s before plastic was invented…
and Egyptian Hieroglyphs depict computer technology…
and the associated Egyptian stories and texts describe the contents from two of the named mid 1990s cd-roms.

You may argue that pictures from one cd may have been influenced by one of the ancient texts.
But it is more than a coincidence to have the contents from three time independent cds of different topics and two independent history books turn up described in over 30 ancient texts spanning many thousands of years - where it is particularly reported that a messenger “showed and told me these things about the future”.

Go on then, hit is with some proof. And no, I'm not going to pay for it so don't even ask

skb

**tolman** · 28th October 2010, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Eddy_P

I still have at least another year of research and reports to conduct and write up.

Well, I guess if you think it's unimportant enough to wait yet another year, you won't find many people here disagreeing with you.

Do come back when you're prepared to show the evidence.

Though I guess you probably wouldn't need to, since it will, no doubt, be front page news anyway.

**Harryprice** · 28th October 2010, 10:15 AM

It all reminds me of von Daniken's work. Why not ET rather than time travellers?

**Croydon Bob** · 28th October 2010, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Harryprice

Why not ET rather than time travellers?

Or a psychic with a sense of humour playing a practical joke to make it seem as if he'd got his info from a time traveller.

**Pebble** · 28th October 2010, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Eddy_P

and there is a depiction of a compact disk in the front of an old Bible…
and within the Bible’s own words it describes a computer system…
and there is a picture of a plastic jewel case from the mid 1800s before plastic was invented…
and Egyptian Hieroglyphs depict computer technology…
and the associated Egyptian stories and texts describe the contents from two of the named mid 1990s cd-roms.
”.

Sounds a bit like Nostradamus to me - vague information being reinterpreted in light of subsequent events.

If I could go back in time, then wishing to leave evidence for the future, I think I would go for something rather specific and famous. E=mc2 would be quite good, the chemical formula for plastic perhaps, but I would also include things like the name of the first man on the moon, polar adventures, discovery of America etc etc. There are vast amounts of data that are sufficiently specific that no room for doubt would be left (one could even write in current languages before they have been invented).