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    Against Humanism

    http://newhumanist.org.uk/2419/against-humanism

    A piece from the "New Humanist" magazine by Mary Midgley. The comments below the article say most of it - very unclear why she asserts that humanism is a form religion, she also asserts that there is something eternal/external about the mind. Perhaps it is just a consequence of advancing years.

    I suppose the main concern I have is the belief that, just because man has always sought an external source for his moral code, an external source must exist.
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    Re: Against Humanism

    Quote Originally Posted by Pebble View Post
    http://newhumanist.org.uk/2419/against-humanism

    A piece from the "New Humanist" magazine by Mary Midgley. The comments below the article say most of it - very unclear why she asserts that humanism is a form religion, she also asserts that there is something eternal/external about the mind. Perhaps it is just a consequence of advancing years.

    I suppose the main concern I have is the belief that, just because man has always sought an external source for his moral code, an external source must exist.
    Not surprised. It's her that I've read misrepresenting Dawkins Selfish Gene book. She continually fails to grasp the difference between Genes seeking to replicate and moral selfishness. Despite Dawkins and others adequately explaining the difference. I've never thought it a difficult concept. Certainly not for someone who describes themselves as a philosopher.

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    Current developments in neuroscience are pinning down the way in which the brain functions and, in conjunction with other sciences, are well on the way to producing powerful evidence that neither consciousness nor conscience/morality involve any external spiritual aspects. Not that that will convince people who don't want to be convinced, of course.
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    She’s clearly floundering out of her depth, writing about things she doesn’t understand. Not unusual for a philosopher. It’s mainly “straw man” stuff is it not? Makes up her own definition of humanism and then attacks it.

    There’s only one thing I do, at least partly, agree with her on. It seems to me that to some people who describe themselves as “Humanist” it is a religion. A religion without any gods (if that is possible), but with an organisation and rituals, as if they have some need for a church to belong to even when their intellect tells them that there’s no point in worshiping a magic space pixie. But I wouldn’t go as far as to suggest that this is an argument against humanism because I’m not old and confused like Mary. It’s just an aspect of some humanism that I don’t understand.
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    Re: Against Humanism

    Quote Originally Posted by Croydon Bob View Post
    I’m not old and confused like Mary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smudge View Post
    Perhaps in the interests of honesty I should have written that I'm not as old and confused as she is...
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