Originally Posted by Jocky
.By scientia gratia scientiae I mean by the Latin word scientia knowledge; so the phrase means knowledge for the sake of knowledge; and in the context I want to situate ourselves in, it means knowledge of facts for the sake of the knowledge of facts.
Originally Posted by Jocky
I would judge that Fear could actuate theism. For instance, Fear is an important motivation underlying Pascal's Wager - fear of the consequences of not believing in a God who later turns out to exist after all, and then proceeds to flambe you for all eternity in a fit of pique
Ergry, would you care to advance the discussion by addressing this post, or by proposing another example?
.Fear is an emotion that is responsible for man's historical suspicion of God's existence; that is a fact.
Aside from fear there are other emotions responsible for man's historical suspicion of God's existence, for example, hope; that is also a fact.
...fear of the consequences of not believing in a God who later turns out to exist after all, and then proceeds to flambe you for all eternity in a fit of pique
The sentence above is emotional. Would you be willing to put it's essential import in an unemotional manner, by doing without the emotionally loaded words, like the following rewriting as an example from my part:
Fear of making either one of two choices to believe in, namely: God exists or God does not exist, which choice could turn out to be contrary to the fact, motivates man to make what he thinks is a more advantageous choice, namely, to believe that God exists, than to believe that God does not exist; because if it should turn out that God does not exist, then he does not have to relate to God, while if it should turn out that God does exist, then he has to relate to God.
We can say that such a way of proceeding in the choice of either one of two options, to believe or to not believe, is man's way of being practical.
Does man have to be practical? Of course man has to be practical, that is man's I submit natural way of dealing with fear and hope when fear and hope have given rise to the suspicion that God exists.
This means that a practical rule of choice is to take the positive option in either one of two opposite alternatives, when taking the positive choice is not to man's estimation an overly deterring inconvenience if at all.
Should man not overcome his fear and hope? He could and I for one is of the opinion that he should; that would take care of the practical need to choose to believe in God's existence than to not believe.
That means every man should exert efforts to grow out of the historical man, which again poses either of two choices for man or everyman who is concerned about God or no God: to grow out of historical man or to not grow out of historical man; and as usual everyman will choose the practical option as he sees practical.
Which alternative option will be chosen by more or most men? For the answer, I submit we have to consult if I am not mistaken, the social psychologists and anthropologists and students of the history of man's practical choices.