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    Re: Skepticism about MLM

    Quote Originally Posted by Pebble View Post
    What is this guy doing on a skeptics site? Advertising?




    Everything immediately available has 'free' in big letters, so I suspect simply fishing for peoples details, for ensnarement.
    I was not advertsining. I posted an opinion. Please go back and check and you will see I have left no URL on the post or any kind of contact info .

    The video was not posted by me but by another unscrupulous person. Hence it has appeared on their profile , but not mine.

    The botom line is . I am an MLM skeptic, but I am a true skeptic a critical thinker. Critical thinking needs to be backed up with education or it is just an exercise or ignorance, ego and prejudice.

    If I have helped 1 or 2 people looking at this forum that is struggling or been scammed in MLM to get educated and think critically about what their doing, then I consider myself to have done a good job.

    MLM is not a sales business it is a teaching and mentoring business. I don't care where people get there info from just so long as they have the tools and skills to be successful. I just offer generic help for free because there is so much hype at there, most if which is rubbish and if it is free then it genuine gift and not me trying to profit from there problems.

    Good day people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the Mage View Post
    A where exactly did I say you said that?
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    Re: Skepticism about MLM

    Quote Originally Posted by William Lawson View Post
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    Er...no. I didn't say you said that there...where did I say it?
    "No statement should be believed because it is made by an authority." Robert Heinlein

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Lawson View Post
    Critical thinking needs to be backed up with education or it is just an exercise or ignorance, ego and prejudice.
    I suggest you educate yourself on what critical thinking actually is, you appear to be exercising your ignorance rather a lot here.
    Better sorry than safe.

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    Indeed.

    Um....
    Bloody typical, they've gone back to metric without telling us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuddles View Post
    I suggest you educate yourself on what critical thinking actually is, you appear to be exercising your ignorance rather a lot here.
    (...just an exercise 'of' ignorance etc...not 'or'.Typing error.
    Well spotted! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Lawson View Post
    MLM is not a sales business
    That's true!

    Quote Originally Posted by William Lawson View Post
    it is a teaching and mentoring business. I don't care where people get there info from just so long as they have the tools and skills to be successful. I just offer generic help for free because there is so much hype at there, most if which is rubbish and if it is free then it genuine gift and not me trying to profit from there problems.
    There's also a related industry that operates along side MLM scams and that's the one where 'MLM gurus' are selling 'insider secrets' and '10 proven tips for making money in MLM' and such like to those who are still in the grip of MLM's impossible dream.

    I wonder if 'free generic help' is a marketing tool to entice people in to buy the killer 'insider secrets'?

    It's all just another way of scamming people out of their money.
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    Re: Skepticism about MLM

    Quote Originally Posted by John Jackson View Post
    That's true!



    There's also a related industry that operates along side MLM scams and that's the one where 'MLM gurus' are selling 'insider secrets' and '10 proven tips for making money in MLM' and such like to those who are still in the grip of MLM's impossible dream.

    I wonder if 'free generic help' is a marketing tool to entice people in to buy the killer 'insider secrets'?

    It's all just another way of scamming people out of their money.
    In some ways it's more sinister than that and sits alongside the various advice scams promoted through direct marketing ('how to be a property millionaire in two years', 'I made millions playing the stock market - in my spare time!', etc.) Most of these scams are selling almost nothing (at least with MLM schemes you get something even if that's not what you're really buying). The free stuff is important because it whets the appetite - at each stage a tantalising glimpse of the occult secrets that can be your is given and the gullible reader believes that by joining the club or spending the money they will discover the secret of making millions without effort.

    'Free' MLM expert sites also use more benign (but equally exploitative) approaches such as selling books and courses plus a great deal of advertising. I suspect also that the common links to various MLM outlets are also paid for - but can't be sure.
    "No statement should be believed because it is made by an authority." Robert Heinlein

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    Re: Skepticism about MLM

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the Mage View Post
    In some ways it's more sinister than that and sits alongside the various advice scams promoted through direct marketing ('how to be a property millionaire in two years', 'I made millions playing the stock market - in my spare time!', etc.) Most of these scams are selling almost nothing (at least with MLM schemes you get something even if that's not what you're really buying). The free stuff is important because it whets the appetite - at each stage a tantalising glimpse of the occult secrets that can be your is given and the gullible reader believes that by joining the club or spending the money they will discover the secret of making millions without effort.

    'Free' MLM expert sites also use more benign (but equally exploitative) approaches such as selling books and courses plus a great deal of advertising. I suspect also that the common links to various MLM outlets are also paid for - but can't be sure.
    Well, in spite of all I have read, I'm going for this - only £39.99!!!!!!

    "HOW I EARN £14,576.92 PER MONTH!"
    Award Winning Entrepreneur Reveals His Proven Secrets of How
    He Makes a Combined Average of £14,576.92 EVERY MONTH - Guaranteed !!!
    and how I do it working less than 2 hours per day

    And more...
    You will be amazed how simple these methods are. Its working now for me and the few average people like you and I. And I guarantee it will work for anyone who is willing to try and with my guide it is really hard to fail!

    “Since you have everything to gain and nothing to lose BUY IT NOW!!!

    I REALLY don't think it is a scam!

















    But then,..........






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    bright, until you hear them speak.

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    Re: Skepticism about MLM

    Just like MLM these schemes have the potential to work but sellign the idea after already being first to market and tapping most of the potential from a workable idea is just a way to milk more money out of it. SOmetimes thre may be some good lessons in the scheme that you can adapt and incorporate into to your own business plan. Sometimes however they're just scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bindeweede View Post
    Well, in spite of all I have read, I'm going for this - only £39.99!!!!!!





    But then,..........
    I think he has 365 people sending him £39.99 each month.
    Mousse from a bowl is very nice, but to put it on a person is demented!

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    Re: Skepticism about MLM

    On a mailing group I belong to we had a member spam the list about some awful pyramid scheme (website at http://www.mandvutilities.co.uk). He started out with the claim that he made £600 per month from two hours work, but then admitted that it was actually 28 hours works. When I pointed out he was earning less than minimum wage he got all huffy and started throwing about the usual stuff about "you're close minded, others will take up this fantastic offer... yadda yadda yadda."

    He's now selling some sort of miracle chocolate bar.
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    Lah-di-dah me new shoes,
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    Re: Skepticism about MLM

    Quote Originally Posted by bindeweede View Post
    And more...



    I REALLY don't think it is a scam!


    Fantastic copy tho'...presses every buzzer and uses every technique to hook the punter without ever saying quite what you'll be doing!! Almost (but not quite) worth the $39.99 just to read some more!8)
    "No statement should be believed because it is made by an authority." Robert Heinlein

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